So after careful analysis and watching multiple youtube videos I've come to the following conclusion - switch track with a spike. I don't think an LSM can clear 400ft in a single launch so it would require multiple launches. I just saw a video that says it would take a minute to do this (I saw this on youtube so it must be true) which is reasonable. If you have a switch track, you can load passengers while one of the trains are launched. This also allows multiple trains so you can launch one after another. This would also allow longer trains. The only problem is that there isn't enough room in the station for a switch track but chances are they'll have to move the station anyway. Could be the removed track is the start of the spike. Feel free to ridicule me endlessly if I'm wrong. Not sure if gambling is allowed on this site.
Attraction Top Thrill 2
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Not sure if the science checks out, but according to this it's entirely possible to switch to LSMs, which would improve uptime and not require a super expensive re-engineering of the whole layout.
Based on the current known removals, chances are that they're not going to touch the station but needed to change out track and supports to accommodate the new systems. The top hat won't need to be touched as it's only track and wouldn't contain any launch or control systems on it.
It's a lot more drastic than thought
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TTD Closed, to be "Reimagined"
https://twitter.com/ttdupdatescp/status/1581986020660195331 uhh they have a brand new wild mouse they are building.... Hate to be one to piss on the parade but yeah no
Why would Cedar Fair be briefing people in their college management program on unannounced attraction details? I'm not saying the info is wrong, but damn that sourcing sounds mighty dubious to me.
This one project is going to drive every enthusiast insane before its all said and done.
I’m pretty sure the insanity me and @Nicole are experiencing from this project is from other enthusiasts and not the ride itself.
While CP does have a more robust college program than a lot of parks, I HIGHLY doubt that the park's upper management would be sharing details with them. At this point, the project would be on a need to know basis and I can't think of a single reason any college intern would need to know. I believe their college program is more focused on hotel and park operations anyways, which usually dont hear anything official until the PR release and then is usually only the PR release that they get, not any extra info.
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" I was formally briefed on what's happening to the attraction once known as Top Thrill Dragster. I have not been permitted to discuss details or answer questions, with one exception."
This type of energy drives me up the WALL. Kid thinks he's so much more important than he is.
This type of energy drives me up the WALL. Kid thinks he's so much more important than he is.
Yeah, this was mind numbing to read. Or the fact they said the rampant speculation was insulting, like we've had any solid information to go off of other than a vague message from the park.
Whether the rumored things going on are true or not, the fact that CF has held off so much on changes we know are happening is a little concerning. Some thoughts will pop up elsewhere on this but does anyone feel like there’s a major shift in moving ways from announcing things super far ahead since the start of COVID?
Perhaps, going off no evidence but just a thought, they couldn't get started on this project until after all the legal stuff cleared from the incident. Then, they also did make a statement that vaguely indicated they were up to something, so while not an announcement it wasn't a denial either.
Perhaps the industry at large has realized that by not announcing the new attraction when work is obviously going on, they get a lot of free marketing by those speculating on what's happening or simply walking by and noticing the activity. Gives them more bang for their buck when finally announcing?
Perhaps the industry at large has realized that by not announcing the new attraction when work is obviously going on, they get a lot of free marketing by those speculating on what's happening or simply walking by and noticing the activity. Gives them more bang for their buck when finally announcing?
This is more my line of thinking. Interest wains after the announcement. By pushing off the announcement for as long as possible you have the curiosity, then the shorter turnaround to being able to ride. The interesest for Wildcat for a while, Grizzly/TTD now, DarKoaster for a while is we know something is going on. Bit if they were announced the speculation and as you said the “free marketing” is gone and it’s just “what happened now”.
So later announcements keeps the interest, and announcing later puts it more ”next time you see us this will be here”. Heck I’ve even lamented that I miss how you wouldn’t see the new ride pushed until just before opening. I feel like Hershey announced Wildcat and Lightning Racer like in the spring right before opening.
Bringing ElToroRyan back up; but he seems to suggest when he heard of who TTD's overhaul would be handling it, is now being specifically mentioned to be Zamperla (the same group who is producing the new Wild Mouse).
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From what it seems--Zamperla is working on a similar conversion job right now, but for Senzafiato (and that is being relocated to Playland Amusement Park in Vancouver).
If this is accurate--this is a refurbishment of track rather than a retrack; to install new systems in place to ensure the coaster can operate for years to come without concern of breaking down.
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From what it seems--Zamperla is working on a similar conversion job right now, but for Senzafiato (and that is being relocated to Playland Amusement Park in Vancouver).
If this is accurate--this is a refurbishment of track rather than a retrack; to install new systems in place to ensure the coaster can operate for years to come without concern of breaking down.
If you read the comments on that, something to me sounds fishy about Zamperla working on it even with the recent personnel changes.
Intamin was already reaching their limits with hydraulic launched ride design at the time of TTD's construction, and ultimately went away from them favoring LSMs on some similar yet smaller attractions (outside of KK).
Zamperla is just getting started with launches in general, and doesn't yet have the expertise with them to guarantee their future on TTD whereas Intamin has proven themselves time and again with their LSM systems.
Obviously this is all speculation, and at the end of the day the bigger question is if whatever comes of this project is fun and reliable. But I don't see any major reasons why Intamin wouldn't be the ones working on it - whether any truly bad blood in corporate exists or not.
Intamin was already reaching their limits with hydraulic launched ride design at the time of TTD's construction, and ultimately went away from them favoring LSMs on some similar yet smaller attractions (outside of KK).
Zamperla is just getting started with launches in general, and doesn't yet have the expertise with them to guarantee their future on TTD whereas Intamin has proven themselves time and again with their LSM systems.
Obviously this is all speculation, and at the end of the day the bigger question is if whatever comes of this project is fun and reliable. But I don't see any major reasons why Intamin wouldn't be the ones working on it - whether any truly bad blood in corporate exists or not.
Do you have some source on that or...?
Hmmmm.......Is that all the info you have (assuming its legit) or is there more?