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It’s true— I’ve seen the details of costs for removal and shipping and the proposal to replace it with a 500’ drop tower (all under Red Zone ownership)

We ended up getting to keep Ka and got a 415’ drop tower, so I’m very glad this did not happen. I’m sure the backlash would’ve been very bad if that came to fruition.
 
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Crazy thought I just had...

There was that rumor floating around that Intamin folks were flying out to Great Adventure, right? What if they're heading out there to decide whether or not to buy Ka back from Great Adventure...?

Given that Zamperla was able to buy, dismantle, ship, renovate, and resell Senzafiato as ThunderVolt, it's not impossible that the same could be done with Ka, no? Steel isn't cheap and Ka is made out of an absolute metric shit ton of steel. Track and support fabrication isn't cheap and there's nothing wrong with Ka's.

If Intamin could get a good deal on Ka (say, scrap cost and paying to dismantle it or similar), it seems like it would be a no-brainer for them to buy Ka back (assuming they believed they could find a home for it sometime in the years ahead). Something tells me there are a lot of random parks out there that would suddenly be interested in an Intamin-sold-and-backed, LSM-converted, refurbished strata if the price was right...

Do I think this is likely? No. Do I think it's possible—particularly if Intamin is actually sending people out to SFGAdv? Maybe...?
That is an interesting idea, again I’m of the opinion that the decision isn’t made yet and think a new intamin using the top hat support structure is more likely….but I could see this being the case. Only issue would be Great Adventure wants the new coaster ready for 2026 and this would delay this significantly.
 
Crazy thought I just had...

There was that rumor floating around that Intamin folks were flying out to Great Adventure, right? What if they're heading out there to decide whether or not to buy Ka back from Great Adventure...?

Given that Zamperla was able to buy, dismantle, ship, renovate, and resell Senzafiato as ThunderVolt, it's not impossible that the same could be done with Ka, no? Steel isn't cheap and Ka is made out of an absolute metric shit ton of steel. Track and support fabrication isn't cheap and there's nothing wrong with Ka's.

If Intamin could get a good deal on Ka (say, scrap cost and paying to dismantle it or similar), it seems like it would be a no-brainer for them to buy Ka back (assuming they believed they could find a home for it sometime in the years ahead). Something tells me there are a lot of random parks out there that would suddenly be interested in an Intamin-sold-and-backed, LSM-converted, refurbished strata if the price was right...

Do I think this is likely? No. Do I think it's possible—particularly if Intamin is actually sending people out to SFGAdv? Maybe...?
Interesting idea but that then brings up two questions. First and foremost would Six Flags being willing to make such a deal knowing that it could possibly end up some place like say BGW that directly competes with them. Two could Intamin disassemble it in a timely enough time frame to allow for a new 2026 coasters to ve ready to go?
 
Not linking all the youtube videos into here but if any of y'all want the full Kingda Ka soundtrack in no particular order:
  • DJ Quicksilver - Rising Up (Club Mix)
  • Dre Stortion - Do You Feel
  • Safri Duo - Played A Live
  • Safri Duo - Baya Baya
  • Safri Duo - Crazy Benny
  • Safri Duo - Snakefood
  • Safri Duo - Everything
  • Safri Duo - Samb Adagio
 
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I've been listening to this on loop extensively over the last year and change.

I would love at least some of these to keep playing in the park if it's appropriate for the area (they had the same soundtrack playing in the Safari line earlier in the season).
 
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Interesting idea but that then brings up two questions. First and foremost would Six Flags being willing to make such a deal knowing that it could possibly end up some place like say BGW that directly competes with them. Two could Intamin disassemble it in a timely enough time frame to allow for a new 2026 coasters to ve ready to go?
Maybe BGT. but they'd never approve that height variance in Williamsburg.
 
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Six Flags, why can’t we have this?

I like the reimagining; I think it would be more interesting if the course happened before the peak. You fly through all the twist and turns with the LSMs adding speed until you blast up the top hat for a climax.
 
Idk maybe I’m more open to this because as someone who is also a big Disney parks/universal fan, I am MUCH more used to closures of favorite attractions/the general feeling of “nothing is safe”, so it’s been kinda strange to see the thoosie community have its first real modern “cannon event” on that level. I know the community has been spiraling over “What’s next”, so I just thought I’d say, as a Disney parks fan who HAS been through this kinda thing many times before: there are going to be some closures in the coming years that will HURT. And you’ll also find that In some cases, corporate interest in money will often trump concerns of legacy when push comes to shove. As unfortunate as it is, that’s the way modern theme/amusment parks work. It’s gonna feel like “corporate is tearing out the soul of the park”, and the seemingly obvious better ways that corporate will do the complete opposite of are gonna be very frustrating. I’ve seen many GADV people expressing similar sentiments, and as an Epcot fan I greatly empathize with all you heartbroken GADV fans. I’ve been there, I understand. I promise though, not everything is dying. Parks understand that legacy and nostalgia often can make money too, so NOT EVERY old favorite is gonna be chucked out the door, I promise. And though it may seem like the new thing will never ever live up to the old, I still think y’all should try and look on the bright side as much as you can. Trust me it helps, and makes this hobby a lot more fun. I’m sorry if I was kidna yapping, but I kinda wanted to say something upon observing this drama. May we all enjoy this silly hobby about funny thrilling trains that do funny thrilling things.
 
Idk maybe I’m more open to this because as someone who is also a big Disney parks/universal fan, I am MUCH more used to closures of favorite attractions/the general feeling of “nothing is safe”, so it’s been kinda strange to see the thoosie community have its first real modern “cannon event” on that level. I know the community has been spiraling over “What’s next”, so I just thought I’d say, as a Disney parks fan who HAS been through this kinda thing many times before: there are going to be some closures in the coming years that will HURT.
I think what hurts more is that the Six Flags parks weren't in great shape and many of them lacked a solid lineup of dependable, modern attractions before Cedar Fair execs swooped in. They are trying to right the ship but the damage was done long ago.

Great Adventure is one that hurts a lot since the 50th turned out to be such a bust. Not only was the new ride delayed (itself already on the lower-capacity end for being a shuttle coaster), but the planned upgrades for the Log Flume and Giant Wheel didn't really go as planned. Some rides were closed unexpectedly (or like Sky Ride and Cyborg, never opened at all), budget cuts could be felt all over the park with staffing cuts (Joker's second loading station), large portions of Fright Fest were delayed, etc. And then closing two big coasters without a replacement ready to go, not to mention two big thrill rides are just gone.

There were some bright spots but they are few and far-between. I have hope but right now the lack of investment over the past decade (Joker and Jersey Devil aside) is really hurting Great Adventure. Maybe that's unavoidable, but they really need to step up for 2025 and beyond.
 
I think what hurts more is that the Six Flags parks weren't in great shape and many of them lacked a solid lineup of dependable, modern attractions before Cedar Fair execs swooped in. They are trying to right the ship but the damage was done long ago.

Great Adventure is one that hurts a lot since the 50th turned out to be such a bust. Not only was the new ride delayed (itself already on the lower-capacity end for being a shuttle coaster), but the planned upgrades for the Log Flume and Giant Wheel didn't really go as planned. Some rides were closed unexpectedly (or like Sky Ride and Cyborg, never opened at all), budget cuts could be felt all over the park with staffing cuts (Joker's second loading station), large portions of Fright Fest were delayed, etc. And then closing two big coasters without a replacement ready to go, not to mention two big thrill rides are just gone.

There were some bright spots but they are few and far-between. I have hope but right now the lack of investment over the past decade (Joker and Jersey Devil aside) is really hurting Great Adventure. Maybe that's unavoidable, but they really need to step up for 2025 and beyond.
I wouldn't even consider Joker to be a good example of legit investment. The plot of land that was cleared to make room for it was huge, iirc someone made a mockup on Google Maps and overlayed X2 at Magic Mountain into that spot, and it was a perfect fit. Despite the massive amount of room, the best they were able to do was a garbage freespin that doesn't even flip more than once. It was very poorly received by the general public and is an example of just how little they cared to actually invest in quality attractions at that time.
 
I wouldn't even consider Joker to be a good example of legit investment. The plot of land that was cleared to make room for it was huge, iirc someone made a mockup on Google Maps and overlayed X2 at Magic Mountain into that spot, and it was a perfect fit. Despite the massive amount of room, the best they were able to do was a garbage freespin that doesn't even flip more than once. It was very poorly received by the general public and is an example of just how little they cared to actually invest in quality attractions at that time.
I actually really like Tumbili, but I've never ridden the one at SFGAdv.
 
Also idk who did the overlay nor do I really care but the space cleared for Joker, including the taking down of the lakeside grandstands and all the open space back there is in no way big enough to hold a ride like X2, lmao.

Whoever did that overlay either got their scaling wrong or was trolling.
 
Like other have said, joker was nowhere near a big enough plot of land to fit anything like that. Honestly I feel like it’s got a fairly nice location along the lake, and looks good at the end of Main Street from the entrance
 
I may be looking at the situation through rose-colored glasses, but I am more optimistic about this park’s future than ever. Cedar Fair has a history of creating good looking parks with good infrastructure that get consistent investments (especially the parks with high ROI like GAdv).

I like to think of this time period in the lens of a sports team. We just got a new general manager in Cedar Fair. Our roster of rollercoasters and park environment are getting older, outdated, and rides are starting to show their ages. So, we are going through a rebuild. Some beloved rides and areas of the park that once were new and exciting are being removed so that new attractions and areas can take their places. Sports rebuilds take time. And these rebuilds usually lead to mixed reactions from fans. However, they eventually lead to overall improvement and a better experience.

I understand why many people may be feeling upset, angry, and worried about the future of the park, as we haven’t exactly had corporate leadership that have yielded positive improvements recently. But, I think we should just enjoy the ride and see what the new Six Flags has in store for us (not just for the 2026 coaster, but beyond).
 
I may be looking at the situation through rose-colored glasses, but I am more optimistic about this park’s future than ever. Cedar Fair has a history of creating good looking parks with good infrastructure that get consistent investments (especially the parks with high ROI like GAdv).

I like to think of this time period in the lens of a sports team. We just got a new general manager in Cedar Fair. Our roster of rollercoasters and park environment are getting older, outdated, and rides are starting to show their ages. So, we are going through a rebuild. Some beloved rides and areas of the park that once were new and exciting are being removed so that new attractions and areas can take their places. Sports rebuilds take time. And these rebuilds usually lead to mixed reactions from fans. However, they eventually lead to overall improvement and a better experience.

I understand why many people may be feeling upset, angry, and worried about the future of the park, as we haven’t exactly had corporate leadership that have yielded positive improvements recently. But, I think we should just enjoy the ride and see what the new Six Flags has in store for us (not just for the 2026 coaster, but beyond).
This rebuild period would have been fine if it took place a decade ago. The park has been run at a bare minimum level since the bankruptcy, and now they're going to remove a ride like Ka, which supposedly has too high of a cost per rider, with a ride (assuming it's the mack shuttle) that will probably pull even less riders.

The way I look at it, is that the park has been on life support for a decade, and this move from CF is simply them pulling the plug. I don't know what the future holds but I can't realistically see them coming back from this, especially if they take yet another bare minimum approach with whatever is coming in 2026.

The park can do whatever they want, but they need to understand that Hershey isn't going to get any worse. CF could make GAdv the crown jewel of the chain and there'd still be no reason for people to consider going there over Hershey.
 
This rebuild period would have been fine if it took place a decade ago. The park has been run at a bare minimum level since the bankruptcy, and now they're going to remove a ride like Ka, which supposedly has too high of a cost per rider, with a ride (assuming it's the mack shuttle) that will probably pull even less riders.

The way I look at it, is that the park has been on life support for a decade, and this move from CF is simply them pulling the plug. I don't know what the future holds but I can't realistically see them coming back from this, especially if they take yet another bare minimum approach with whatever is coming in 2026.

The park can do whatever they want, but they need to understand that Hershey isn't going to get any worse. CF could make GAdv the crown jewel of the chain and there'd still be no reason for people to consider going there over Hershey.
The same could be said for many six flags parks. While smaller parks like Fiesta Texas, the two “over”’s, and bread adventure have all stood out to geed pretty good upkeep and managing compared to other parks, what should be their two flagships in Magic Mountain and Great Adventure have been languishing in many things over the past few years. Both parks have so much potential to be better than what they are currently, and i think six flags (cedar fair) at least understands this. I dont think they are removing Ka out of malice. I wish they could’ve kept it (and so does park management), but as of right now if there was truly no other way than so be it as long as we get a better great adventure. I hope someday Magic Mountain and Great adventure can get the “aura” back it once had.

The same could be said for many six flags parks. While smaller parks like Fiesta Texas, the two “over”’s, and bread adventure have all stood out to geed pretty good upkeep and managing compared to other parks, what should be their two flagships in Magic Mountain and Great Adventure have been languishing in many things over the past few years. Both parks have so much potential to be better than what they are currently, and i think six flags (cedar fair) at least understands this. I dont think they are removing Ka out of malice. I wish they could’ve kept it (and so does park management), but as of right now if there was truly no other way than so be it as long as we get a better great adventure. I hope someday Magic Mountain and Great adventure can get the “aura” back it once had.
Ngl we should be thankful managment was willing to go to bat for toro. Imagine if it got removed and not ka? This situation sucks all around.
 
bread adventure
i love six flags bread adventure

Both parks have so much potential to be better than what they are currently, and i think six flags (cedar fair) at least understands this. I dont think they are removing Ka out of malice. I wish they could’ve kept it (and so does park management), but as of right now if there was truly no other way than so be it as long as we get a better great adventure.
I completely agree. I think CF will build up these parks to be truly sustainable parks with good customer experiences and big rides. With Ka gone, hopefully that means the park can get multiple new big coasters. Honestly, I don't think that Mack shuttle would be that bad.

Ngl we should be thankful managment was willing to go to bat for toro. Imagine if it got removed and not ka? This situation sucks all around.
If what was said about Ka v Toro is true, I'm surprised they chose to save Toro. It's much less of an icon and much less of a draw for those who aren't enthusiasts. Apparently it also has a rough reputation in the GP. Obviously I'm very glad Toro is still here, but the decision surprises me slightly.
 
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