Fuck it, use GL's plot for a new coaster and use the entire Ka plot for a Golden Kingdom expansion with another coaster and highly themed indoor boat jungle temple ride.
Sorta a meta conversation here, but can I just say that I'm getting really fed up with all of the sub-tweeting and the like happening around this rumor?
A few (of many) examples from people I actually generally agree with and who I believe are genuinely well-intentioned.
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honestly there's just no good answers imo. nothing is gonna replace losing the tallest, fastest coaster in the US and the tallest drop tower in the world. which is why this whole move is insane to me
It would be really cool if they kept the structure and the top of the top hat as a memorial of sorts, with the drop tower staying completely intact. I understand that’s probably not going to happen because they will likely need the space but losing such a huge drop tower is adding insult to injuryI mean can’t say I’m particularly surprised, makes sense both of the problem coasters were on the chopping block, as far as the choice between the two….operating costs for Ka have to be more expensive even if you factor in Toro’s retracking. Woodies are also just inherently deferent when it comes to lifespan, if properly taken care of they have no designated lifespan, steel coasters typically can go 30 years before they need complete retracking with is costly. Let’s not act like Ka is glass smooth anymore, it would need that retracking sooner rather then later.
I definitely think this project is in overdrive but I wouldn’t expect a Ka replacement until 2027 at the earliest, that tower could likely sit sbno for a while
They aren’t in on the loop or if they are they’ve been told to act as if all is normal.OK what the hell is going on with the park's guest relations and social media?
If KK ends up not opening at all next year, I could see a potential lawsuit coming up.
I’m pretty sure the reaction is not going to be good no matter what unless it’s announced that it was fake information. lol.So even if the rumor was still pretty young in August, the park should still make an effort to scrub stuff like this off social media.
Kennywood did that with Steel Curtain, so nobody could file a lawsuit saying the ride is advertised as open or available during the season. If a member of the public catches wind of this post and the park doesn't address it, it could have a negative effect on the park, ESPECIALLY with season passholders.
EDIT: I'll give them the benefit of the doubt right now since its still fairly early, but if the park doesn't take this post down before opening weekend in spring, I definitely could smell a false advertisement lawsuit coming.
Sorta a meta conversation here, but can I just say that I'm getting really fed up with all of the sub-tweeting and the like happening around this rumor?
A few (of many) examples from people I actually generally agree with and who I believe are genuinely well-intentioned.
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First off, I don't have a horse in this race. A few friends have told me it's coming down, but I haven't made any public claims. I have seen no evidence and I can't vouch for the sourcing of what these friends have heard. Hence, I haven't staked any claims via ParkFans.
That said, to the influencers like ElToroRyan and CoasterStudios who very much have made bold, firm claims, I feel like there's a really unjust amount of ire being directed their way (often in shitty, indirect ways too). I honestly don't understand what the community wants from people with access to insider information like this.
Obviously no one involved can reveal their actual sourcing because the sourcing is happening via illicit means. Maybe, depending on what these influencers' sources have shared with them, influencers could cite having seen internal documentation or the like. Frankly though, the vast majority of thoosie influencers aren't getting hard documentation from their sources. More likely than not, these people just have a handful of friends in high places who they sincerely trust and those friends, directly, have access to the information and have opted to share it with these influencers.
Ideally these influencers would, of course, cite their sources. That said, assuming they can't (something I have seen them say over and over again publicly), what's the alternative? They almost certainly honestly, sincerely, strongly believe that Ka is closing. They can either keep silent and not tell anyone the world's tallest and fastest roller coaster is closing forever or they can bet their public reputations on it and make the claim.
Why are so many people opposed to the latter and why would anyone want the former?
Whether sourcing is impossible to share or even if they just don't want to share said sourcing, let these people bet their reputations on the story. It's their prerogative. If they get it wrong, roast them, don't believe them in the future—they'll deserve it. That said, if they're right, people better remember that too.
Having been on the other side of this table in the past, putting your reputation on the line like this isn't fun. People will demand to see the evidence you can't share ad nauseum—they'll call you fake news—they'll call you a liar—they'll say you're just an all-around bad person. Meanwhile, no one EVER comes back and says "good job" or "thank you" if/when you're proven right. All the people who threw tomatoes back when the original claim was made keep quiet—just to repeat the cycle the next time something similar comes around.
So yeah, if ElToroRyan, CoasterStudios, etc are proven right, I hope to see some real kudos come their way. This is a big swing. They will have earned the praise if they hit a home run.
OK what the hell is going on with the park's guest relations and social media?
If KK ends up not opening at all next year, I could see a potential lawsuit coming up.
Sorta a meta conversation here, but can I just say that I'm getting really fed up with all of the sub-tweeting and the like happening around this rumor?
A few (of many) examples from people I actually generally agree with and who I believe are genuinely well-intentioned.
Direct Link to Embedded Media Source
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First off, I don't have a horse in this race. A few friends have told me it's coming down, but I haven't made any public claims. I have seen no evidence and I can't vouch for the sourcing of what these friends have heard. Hence, I haven't staked any claims via ParkFans.
That said, to the influencers like ElToroRyan and CoasterStudios who very much have made bold, firm claims, I feel like there's a really unjust amount of ire being directed their way (often in shitty, indirect ways too). I honestly don't understand what the community wants from people with access to insider information like this.
Obviously no one involved can reveal their actual sourcing because the sourcing is happening via illicit means. Maybe, depending on what these influencers' sources have shared with them, influencers could cite having seen internal documentation or the like. Frankly though, the vast majority of thoosie influencers aren't getting hard documentation from their sources. More likely than not, these people just have a handful of friends in high places who they sincerely trust and those friends, directly, have access to the information and have opted to share it with these influencers.
Ideally these influencers would, of course, cite their sources. That said, assuming they can't (something I have seen them say over and over again publicly), what's the alternative? They almost certainly honestly, sincerely, strongly believe that Ka is closing. They can either keep silent and not tell anyone the world's tallest and fastest roller coaster is closing forever or they can bet their public reputations on it and make the claim.
Why are so many people opposed to the latter and why would anyone want the former?
Whether sourcing is impossible to share or even if they just don't want to share said sourcing, let these people bet their reputations on the story. It's their prerogative. If they get it wrong, roast them, don't believe them in the future—they'll deserve it. That said, if they're right, people better remember that too.
Having been on the other side of this table in the past, putting your reputation on the line like this isn't fun. People will demand to see the evidence you can't share ad nauseum—they'll call you fake news—they'll call you a liar—they'll say you're just an all-around bad person. Meanwhile, no one EVER comes back and says "good job" or "thank you" if/when you're proven right. All the people who threw tomatoes back when the original claim was made keep quiet—just to repeat the cycle the next time something similar comes around.
So yeah, if ElToroRyan, CoasterStudios, etc are proven right, I hope to see some real kudos come their way. This is a big swing. They will have earned the praise if they hit a home run.
Sorta a meta conversation here, but can I just say that I'm getting really fed up with all of the sub-tweeting and the like happening around this rumor?
A few (of many) examples from people I actually generally agree with and who I believe are genuinely well-intentioned.
Direct Link to Embedded Media Source
First off, I don't have a horse in this race. A few friends have told me it's coming down, but I haven't made any public claims. I have seen no evidence and I can't vouch for the sourcing of what these friends have heard. Hence, I haven't staked any claims via ParkFans.
That said, to the influencers like ElToroRyan and CoasterStudios who very much have made bold, firm claims, I feel like there's a really unjust amount of ire being directed their way (often in shitty, indirect ways too). I honestly don't understand what the community wants from people with access to insider information like this.
Obviously no one involved can reveal their actual sourcing because the sourcing is happening via illicit means. Maybe, depending on what these influencers' sources have shared with them, influencers could cite having seen internal documentation or the like. Frankly though, the vast majority of thoosie influencers aren't getting hard documentation from their sources. More likely than not, these people just have a handful of friends in high places who they sincerely trust and those friends, directly, have access to the information and have opted to share it with these influencers.
Ideally these influencers would, of course, cite their sources. That said, assuming they can't (something I have seen them say over and over again publicly), what's the alternative? They almost certainly honestly, sincerely, strongly believe that Ka is closing. They can either keep silent and not tell anyone the world's tallest and fastest roller coaster is closing forever or they can bet their public reputations on it and make the claim.
Why are so many people opposed to the latter and why would anyone want the former?
I'm with you there. And it's funny, no matter how much you put your reputation on the line and no matter how many times you are right, you will always get remembered for that one time you are wrong.Whether sourcing is impossible to share or even if they just don't want to share said sourcing, let these people bet their reputations on the story. It's their prerogative. If they get it wrong, roast them, don't believe them in the future—they'll deserve it. That said, if they're right, people better remember that too.
Having been on the other side of this table in the past, putting your reputation on the line like this isn't fun. People will demand to see the evidence you can't share ad nauseum—they'll call you fake news—they'll call you a liar—they'll say you're just an all-around bad person. Meanwhile, no one EVER comes back and says "good job" or "thank you" if/when you're proven right. All the people who threw tomatoes back when the original claim was made keep quiet—just to repeat the cycle the next time something similar comes around.
If they do what they want to it won't be SBNO next season. It will be just gone.Honestly? At this point I'll believe it when I see it. If it's SBNO next season that's likely a bad sign.
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