The Big Bad Wolf
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National Roller Coaster Museum and Archives along with a section of track with a car, ride requirements and the control panel. There are other BBW cars and track there which are not on display.
Also, NRCMA's Facebook.
EDIT: Sorry, I had posted this before and should have just linked to HERE.
Also, NRCMA's Facebook.
EDIT: Sorry, I had posted this before and should have just linked to HERE.
Look what I found hiding on a sign in the parking lot. A subtle reminder of the Wolf.
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The park should have kept the sign, now that it's gone they should attempt to get it back. I would love to see a museum of sorts in the future with park history and as much items from BBW and DF as they can re-collect or dust-off. I also think if they don't currently sell BBW T-shirts they might want to rethink that. I would buy one for sure. Ahh I remember my one and only night ride during my final spin on this coaster. Unbelievable! Some great rides are just made indescribable at night, this my friends was one of those rides. A big void still lingers in me, a Big Bad Wolf void.
I believe the museum that they gave it to has been willing to lend things like that in the past to parks celebrating milestones. As for the shirts, I heard that they were a big seller for 2015. I would not be surprised to see them a second year.
[split] Curse of DarKastle
super offtopic and i'm sorry if me asking is annoying--wasn't BBW closed because of a combination of "ride popularity" and not being able to afford new parts? (because they weren't being manufactured anymore)
SLC Headache said:
super offtopic and i'm sorry if me asking is annoying--wasn't BBW closed because of a combination of "ride popularity" and not being able to afford new parts? (because they weren't being manufactured anymore)
RE: Curse of DarKastle
If it was maintenance costs, they could have had reduced hours and season. Obviously, they already did this for DarKastle in using it for a Halloween maze, etc.
It really hurt DarKastle more since an indoor ride would have great appeal during the cooler season.
If the 25-year "end of service life" really was the whole reason, then Iron Dragon ('87), Ninja ('88), Vampire ('90), and Vortex ('91) would all be gone by now, and the Bat ('93) would be gone after this year. Ninja was easily top 5 at Magic Mountain for me. Vampire and Vortex are my main reasons for even considering UK and Canada trips.sereniv said:
If it was maintenance costs, they could have had reduced hours and season. Obviously, they already did this for DarKastle in using it for a Halloween maze, etc.
It really hurt DarKastle more since an indoor ride would have great appeal during the cooler season.
RE: Curse of DarKastle
These suspended coasters you mention don't come close to producing the forces that BBW did on it's final run from the 2nd drop over the river. That's where all the problems were. It's the reason why they put a trim brake on the final drop, which really didn't help as park maintenance continued to constantly weld cracks in that area.
Look at Eagle Fortress at Everland Park in South Korea. That ride was nothing but what BBW's final run was. And actually more powerful! That ride opened in 1992 and closed in 2009. So it lasted only 17 years.
SLC Headache said:
These suspended coasters you mention don't come close to producing the forces that BBW did on it's final run from the 2nd drop over the river. That's where all the problems were. It's the reason why they put a trim brake on the final drop, which really didn't help as park maintenance continued to constantly weld cracks in that area.
Look at Eagle Fortress at Everland Park in South Korea. That ride was nothing but what BBW's final run was. And actually more powerful! That ride opened in 1992 and closed in 2009. So it lasted only 17 years.
RE: Curse of DarKastle
It is worth mentioning that the park's official claim on the Roller Coaster Insider Tour was not that it had hit a specific expiration date, but that it had simply become too expensive to maintain.
I would also note that despite the outrage that continues even to this day about its being closed, I recall several years, when it was a walk-on, at least when I was at the park.
Also, I moved the discussion of BBW from the DK thread.
It is worth mentioning that the park's official claim on the Roller Coaster Insider Tour was not that it had hit a specific expiration date, but that it had simply become too expensive to maintain.
I would also note that despite the outrage that continues even to this day about its being closed, I recall several years, when it was a walk-on, at least when I was at the park.
Also, I moved the discussion of BBW from the DK thread.
Nicole said:
It was too expensive to maintain since day 1 as they were welding cracks opening week!
So kudos to the park for actually keeping it around as long they did.
Nicole said:
Yeah, but to be fair, one could say the same of almost any of BGW's coasters. Aside from the busiest times of the year, most of BGW's coasters keep fairly short lines much of the time (especially back in the days of fantastic operations with all trains running almost all the time).
Zachary said:
And they didn't need proxies in a ratcheting restraint to tell if someone was safe to ride. For an operations person I love how safety focused SEAS is as a company, but B&M has the seatbelt on their old ratchet restraints for a reason. Get it to buckle and you're good to go, don't need a computer to tell you otherwise.
Unagi said:
I have heard that the park rebuilt the vast majority of the ride once or twice over the years, during the off-season. I don't really know any more details. Can anyone confirm or elaborate on this?
Geez, from what you're saying, it sounds almost like a "Bat '81" kind of self-destruction. If only B&M made a suspended coaster, their track could handle the forces better.
We're "lucky" Verbolten doesn't beat itself up - it successfully takes those forces out on the riders, save for the fast turns outside that are now getting rough.
We're "lucky" Verbolten doesn't beat itself up - it successfully takes those forces out on the riders, save for the fast turns outside that are now getting rough.
Defunctland has made a new episode about the ride and it's great. 
^Loved that video up until the point where they said Verbolten was a quality ride.
Also loved the bit about how the first modern suspended was really at the real Oktoberfest and not Bat '81.
Also loved the bit about how the first modern suspended was really at the real Oktoberfest and not Bat '81.
That guy's name is Kevin Perjurer. How can we believe anything he says?
Unagi said:
This was true. Hard to show it now. But there were sections that were taken out and replaced I believe in the early 90's. Easiest way to tell was the original track pieces were welded together whereas the new pieces were bolted together.