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I know how this is going to come across, but this is seriously not meant to be insulting in any way - I just want you to better yourself.

You may find that something like these can help you:


It would help your interactions here, and I imagine in life in general, go so much better for everyone involved, including yourself.

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Time will tell how this ends up going but I've got PTSD from watching Bayou Phoenix rip off tax payer dollars down in New Orleans. The whole "lets use KD to try and get people on board" already rubs me the wrong way. I was really hoping this was going to be sold to a more reputable/experienced developer even if another park was out of the question. I'll be watching this closely with a lot of skepticism, but the lack of a real plan right now makes me think this park will sit here for a bit.
 
While it won't be a theme park anymore, I think it would be neat if they still incorporated Wild One into whatever they're planning, just because of its history and age. Have it become a premium pay-per-ride attraction.
This would be excellent and I think it could prove to be a consistent money maker if implemented correctly. Would make an awesome kinetic centerpiece for the development!
 
Looking deeper into things only makes me more worried. Durant is the owner of 35V and is likely there for two reasons 1: financial backing of some sort 2: create some good PR for the company that's really in charge, the TBA Group. This is based off the fact that it looks like Durant's company has zero experience in real estate.

Looking at TBA Group's projects.....woah boy. Whole lot of housing and industrial spaces on their website. Nothing here I see screams "redevelop the area for entertainment purposes". The lack of a concrete plan is worrying as well, either they have no clue what they want for the space or they have a plan and just don't want to tell the public because it'll lead to backlash. Looking at their portfolio I'm leaning towards the second. I don't know anything about the people who run this company but I don't know why a company with zero entertainment/leisure experience would suddenly take on such a massive entertainment/leisure project.
 
Looking deeper into things only makes me more worried. Durant is the owner of 35V and is likely there for two reasons 1: financial backing of some sort 2: create some good PR for the company that's really in charge, the TBA Group. This is based off the fact that it looks like Durant's company has zero experience in real estate.

Looking at TBA Group's projects.....woah boy. Whole lot of housing and industrial spaces on their website. Nothing here I see screams "redevelop the area for entertainment purposes". The lack of a concrete plan is worrying as well, either they have no clue what they want for the space or they have a plan and just don't want to tell the public because it'll lead to backlash. Looking at their portfolio I'm leaning towards the second. I don't know anything about the people who run this company but I don't know why a company with zero entertainment/leisure experience would suddenly take on such a massive entertainment/leisure project.
You hit the neil on its head. The real Largo Towne Center kinda failed which was built at the former Capitol Center site now a hospital. No one wants to be in this county other than the housing developers and buyer's who buy the houses which pays most of the tax bill for the county.
 
I don’t think much will remain in the transition, but a small/regional waterpark could make it into the plans. SFA’s waterpark was a success and that would probably be the easiest thing to copy over to a new development.
I mean if this actually does go the entertainment route I think an indoor waterpark complex with a hotel would work. I just have doubts that this is the direction the developers even want to go.
 
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Given that this buyer doesn't seem to actually even have solid concepts of a plan (let alone a meaningful vision or path set out to actually bring anything to fruition on the site in the short to medium term) and given that the sale announcement came much later than originally anticipated, I sorta assume interest in the property was... uh... not overwhelming. It really does feel like Six Flags precisely selected the absolute worst possible economic and political moment at which to put a large swath of land in the national capital region on the market.

This new story from WTOP cites a county supervisor estimating 12 to 18 months before zoning changes are likely to even be evaluated:


Feels like we're already solidly on the dreaded "close a park and struggle to redevelop the land for a decade+ before putting up single family housing" path we've seen so many times before. Ironically, if a developer put ten years of time, money, and effort into overhauling Six Flags America instead of trying to start from scratch, they could probably come out on the other end with the major entertainment destination the county wants—but the county seems set on a flashier, more immediate pipedream that I reckon they're relatively unlikely to ever see come to fruition.
 
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Given that this buyer doesn't seem to actually even have solid concepts of a plan (let alone a meaningful vision or path set out to actually bring anything to fruition on the site in the short to medium term) and given that the sale announcement came much later than originally anticipated, I sorta assume interest in the property was... uh... not overwhelming. It really does feel like Six Flags precisely selected the absolute worst possible economic and political moment at which to put a large swath of land in the national capital region on the market.

This new story from WTOP cites a county supervisor estimating 12 to 18 months before zoning changes are likely to even be evaluated:


Feels like we're already solidly on the dreaded "close a park and struggle to redevelop the land for a decade+ before putting up single family housing" path we've seen so many times before. Ironically, if a developer put ten years of time, money, and effort into overhauling Six Flags America instead of trying to start from scratch, they could probably come out on the other end with the major entertainment destination the county wants—but the county seems set on a flashier, more immediate pipedream that I reckon they're relatively unlikely to ever see come to fruition.
While economic conditions don't help, the location of that land is always going to be a problem. It's 4 miles outside the beltway and away from Metro on a road with little other major development beyond strip malls. Throw in the need to do major overhaul and clean up, it's just not a desirable property.

Outside of maybe a casino or sports stadium, which there isn't infinite demand for, there's not much to build there beyond housing and minor retail. Any type of mall or mixed use is likely to fail, when it can't even work in more convenient locations west of there.
 
Outside of maybe a casino or sports stadium, which there isn't infinite demand for, there's not much to build there beyond housing and minor retail. Any type of mall or mixed use is likely to fail, when it can't even work in more convenient locations west of there.

Yeah, it's almost like they need some major, regional-draw, anchor attraction to bring in people for couple-day-long leisure trips so they can build lodging and a shopping/dining area and capitalize on the people "trapped" on their leisure island in the middle of the suburbs. You'd probably want this major, regional-draw, anchor attraction to be more family-oriented to differentiate this entertainment area from the already existing, more inherently desirable National Harbor. Anyone have any ideas for what a major, family-oriented, regional-draw, anchor attraction may look like? I'm totally stumped! /s

It just blows my mind to see that anyone—particularly when there is no actual plan or vision for the property—would immediately, fully rule-out a park on the site.

It also blows my mind that a directionless real estate investment group with no solid concepts for the property could win out in a competitive bidding process that SHOULD have at least involved a park operator or two. If this land had sold pre-COVID, I'm convinced there would have been a line out the door of park operators interested. My guess is that 5 to 10 years from now, the same would be true too. The asset, as a park, to a park operator, should be immensely desirable. Low competition, total local market dominance over the DC and Baltimore metros, ability to capitalize on DC tourism, ability to build out a resort/entertainment district, etc. It's a region SO many operators have shown interest in previously, but the main issue has often been land acquisition or zoning. This property comes with the zoning intact—the NIMBYs have already been defeated—no repeat of Disney's America.

The way all of this has gone down just really bothers me, man. In a slightly different world, there's no doubt in my mind that this should be a thriving Legoland or a Universal Kids Resort + Horror Unleashed + CityWalk or even a Disney's America. Six Flags held this property in a state of neglect and stasis for nearly two decades and then surgically selected the absolute least optimal time to cash in that investment—and that decision is likely to lead to the park rotting away as plans get downsized and downsized over and over again until the land is, once again, massively underutilized. Just brutal.
 
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Another thing that kind of factors into the "What do they do with the land?" conversation is the Commanders stadium. They are now planned to be out by 2030 and I assume that stadium be demolished and turned into the same mixed use zoning this is and its like right down the road from this. As before BLVD at CAP CTR was a complete failure, but the idea of two large plots with the same goals in an area. How's that going to work when they could not support what is now a hospital center.

Another thing that kind of factors into the "What do they do with the land?" conversation is the Commanders stadium. They are now planned to be out by 2030 and I assume that stadium be demolished and turned into the same mixed use zoning this is and its like right down the road from this. As before BLVD at CAP CTR was a complete failure, but the idea of two large plots with the same goals in an area. How's that going to work when they could not support what is now a hospital center.
I should also mention the Landover Mall lot has been empty for close to a decade undeveloped. Way back in the day that mall was so awesome.
 
You need one of these empty spaces to be some sort of attraction to drive people in to make one of these retail areas that they're talking about work. It sounds like they want some sort of National Harbor-like space here (that is if that is their endgame) but that only works because people are already in the area to visit D.C. SFA is just far enough removed from D.C. that people won't be willing to go out of their way to visit UNLESS there is some other attraction to draw them in. It's just not going to work like it sounds the like the county wants it to.

Honestly looking at this feel very much like things are going to go the Geauga Lake route, the park will probably sit there for a LONG time and eventually get torn down for some sort of housing development.
 
Another thing that kind of factors into the "What do they do with the land?" conversation is the Commanders stadium. They are now planned to be out by 2030 and I assume that stadium be demolished and turned into the same mixed use zoning this is and its like right down the road from this. As before BLVD at CAP CTR was a complete failure, but the idea of two large plots with the same goals in an area. How's that going to work when they could not support what is now a hospital center.
Can’t wait for BLVD at FEDEX, BLVD at WILD WORLD ADVENTURE WORLD SFA

I should also mention the Landover Mall lot has been empty for close to a decade undeveloped. Way back in the day that mall was so awesome.
They were really holding out for the new FBI HQ along with Greenbelt (2 sites in PG were better odds than 1 in VA) but that didn’t turn out well for either state. Meanwhile the Woodmore development up the road seems to be thriving with Wegmans (major get for PG well before DC or MoCo had one) and Costco as well as a bunch of dining. No theater, just a gym. I could see some outdoor recreation uses at the old SFA like zip line courses (great for school field trips and camps), Ninja Warrior style obstacle courses, etc to complement whatever else they have going in there, but it’s going to be a challenge
 
How much of a benefit is there by moving on from this property at a loss, and a major loss at that?
 
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