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Thought of just now by me when thinking of ways to revamp Da Vinci’s Garden. Here are my very scattered thoughts, the first of which will piss off a lot of you:

LEAN INTO TEMPESTO

"But O Great Pantsmith, why would we double down on the biggest thematic mistake and roller coaster placement maybe in BGW history?" BECAUSE the sunk cost fallacy says that BGW will not remove nor retheme this thing, AND either way it's actually easier than one may think to spruce up the rest of Festa and make Tempesto fit, current name and theme and all.

STEP 1: NEW FLAT RIDE
Like I said, this started as a way to fix DaVinci's garden. My mind went to a Gerstlauer Sky Fly, which I'm sure has been suggested before. Then, I thought, rather than fuck up Da VInci's Garden's whole symmetry thing with a big ass ride, maybe it could go in Festa? To Google Earth we go.

In keeping with my annoying "nobody-asked" pounding the table for more Hansa Park shit in the U.S., here's that park's Sky Fly, with a rough perimeter measurement. I have the lengths of the first two legs (23m) memorized so I can more or less recreate this as a rudimentary way of fitting one of these into Festa.

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Now, here's where I'd place it in Festa (with a much wider view):

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Bye-bye arcade, you will not be missed. Now, you say, "Great idea, my favorite member of ParkFans Message Board Mr. Pantsmith, but how will you theme such a ride?" And to that I say:

EXACTLY LIKE TEMPESTO

The ride is named Acrobata (Italian for "Acrobat"), themed to Tempesto's sister, a stunt pilot and the other half of their traveling act. Giving Tempesto a buddy makes it feel more at home and worthy of being there. The brother-sister rivalry also makes for good merch and a fun little character story in Festa. I would have the exit to Tempesto now curve with the entrance, and place the Acrobata queue entrance directly to its right, with an overarching double entrance sign over all three paths. REALLY lean into these two being a package deal. Switchbacks over by Tempesto's launch, followed by a front-wrapping queue similar to the once seen in Hansa, and an exit to the restrooms, and boom, Acrobata. Throw some 20s stunt pilot theming on there and you're done. Maybe push it into the path more so it's not on top of Tempesto, not sure about the clearances there.

Now, for the interesting part.

STEP 2: RETHEMING FESTA ITALIA
Festa, in this timeline, is not a celebration of Marco Polo's return, it's a late 1910s-early 1920s Italian carnival, with a subtle steampunk-y vibe to it. Now, I know this not necessarily historically accurate, BUT, it is not a problematic time period to be drawing from in Italian history (i.e. pre-fascist), and it's Busch Gardens, who cares about historical accuracy? What it does is give BGW a vibe it doesn't really have yet. It also transitions well from Da Vinci's Garden doing a kind of period-appropriate mechanical vibe, before Festa catapults guest to the future. I would ideally want this done with a retheme of Pantheon that makes it something closer to San Marco (see: this awesome concept by @AIR ), but even if it had to stay in Festa, just theme it to 1920s explorers finding the ruins of a temple and upsetting the gods. I'd still prefer the former for Pantheon, because I have a stretch addition for this master plan that needs that second concept.

Individual rethemes are pretty easy. Trade Wind is now a contraption that is supposed to "take you on the journey of Marco Polo", as a nod to the old theme. Same applies to Turkish Delight. No need to get fancy, here. Really lean into the "step right up" of it all. A lot can stay somewhat untouched. Just add more bronze, some gears, keep the colorful buildings, even keep the games (a rare suggestion from me). Quick note, Roman Rapids may not really fit in this vision. Assume it'll get some other upgrade/replacement to be described later (hint hint).

There's a giant purple elephant in the room, I know. Let's talk about Apollo.

STEP 3: RETHEMING APOLLO'S CHARIOT

How mad would you be if I said I think BGW should theme Apollo's Chariot to a man-made contraption rather than his actual chariot? Please hold your tomatoes.

I love when a ride is themed to a contraption. It's everywhere in European parks, because it works. Schwur des Kärnan, Voltron, Furius Baco, even Taron is themed to a magic battering ram. Apollo's Chariot being a gear and steam powered contraption that takes you into the sky is kinda lame compared to its old theme, but it's feasible to do. You don't have to add stonework, rockwork, columns, and temple facades to every building in Festa. Theming Apollo to an old temple would just make it more out of place, because we know BGW won't fix Festa how it could/should. So yeah, carnival, world's fair, invention, steampunk theme, BUT, A TWIST...

The story of this version of Apollo's Chariot would have the real, no shit sun god take control of the contraption during your ride--essentially doing a classic Icarus/man's hubris/the gods were real! type thing in 1920s Italy. How is this accomplished? Lift hill music, of course. Have the ride start normally, and then the voice of Apollo appear over the speakers, essentially hijacking your vehicle and taking you much higher than designed. Keeps Apollo central to the story, and adds a sense of danger and adventure. Lean into the carnival theming, add some mechanical stuff, etc. Also definitely add some queue signage advertising the "planned" ride, being clear it only takes you maybe 50 feet in the air. But make that seem like a big deal to really make the actual coaster height seem massive. It could also be fun to put up some flyers from protest groups, maybe a group of weirdos who still believe in the gods in the 1920s and see this circus attraction as an affront to Apollo (foreshadowing). Not much else needs to be done. No indoor parts of the queue, no darkride section, no massive station overhaul. Keep Apollo about the ride, but make it fit in.

Additional current Festa issue this change fixes: having both Tempesto and Apollo be essentially circus attractions makes their placement directly on top of one-another more thematically okay, even if it still ruins Apollo's majesty.

And now for my final change...

STEP 4: ROMAN RAPIDS RETHEME/REPLACEMENT (STRETCH)
Remember that theme about 1920s explorers coming across an old temple I suggested for Pantheon? Yeah I want that on Roman Rapids. Also, in true Pantsmith recommendation fashion, make that shit indoors (partially). Explorers find an old temple of Neptune, which they explore in boats. Bing bang boom, easy. Maybe I'll come back to this thread later with a more fleshed out idea here, but it's midnight and I've been typing for an hour instead of sleeping, which is bad. All I have now are two potential building footprint options:

Option 1 (Preferred):

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Option 2 (Backup in case the grade is funky close to the riverbank):

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Either are doable, and I do worry about the Adventure Express ending happening here with the boats entering a temple and going up a lift then just being done, but I think this automatically improves Roman Rapids. Those of you with more knowledge of the ride and the area, let me know if this is even possible.

Alternatively, you could place a Mack Water coaster here with similar indoor sections and a visible drop and splashdown that actually attracts guests to that area. I would reserve that for if Pompeii has to go, too. Two birds, one stone. Either is a stretch but could be a massive win for the park.

SO, that's my plan to fix Festa Italia with one addition and a pretty light retheme, though I think the area truly becomes GREAT with the rapids/water coaster idea implemented. Ample opportunities for cool scare zones and houses here, too. I'd post my LinkedIn so BGW could contact me if I wouldn't also be doxxing myself to strangers. Goodnight, feel free to suggest changes or additions.
 
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While not a fan of re-theming Apolos Chariot, I will applaud anyone that is supporting the Pantheon area becoming Greek, give me the food and give me the vibe. The rest are interesting ideas that would make the festa area fun and interesting. I don't see much feasibility with the changes to the roman rapids unless there were some system failure that required an overhaul that a new ride would be a better option. I do think a rapids/float type ride would be more interesting in the Pompei location (think walkways going over the "river" and perhaps intertwining with overpasses from a potential le mans ) and a water coaster taking the place of the current rapids giving it much more flexibility than the pompei site.
 
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I just think retheming Festa and Apollo to be more period appropriate would be kind of unnecessary if Pantheon was Greek/more like San Marco (I’d actually prefer the latter). But I also don’t know nearly as much about the original vision for the park as others.
 
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The original vision for Festa Italia was the desperate need for family flat rides, so they added it. Oktoberfest wasn't enough. BGW is modeled after most other American parks with the proven concepts you'll notice at most older parks before it. Elegant entrance area (Banbury Cross), carnival games area (Oktoberfest), Wild West area (New France). It's just feels different at BGW because it has its European themes.

Festa Italia was themed the way it is as a festival and due to its proximity to the San Marco village, they found the theme of Marco Polos travels which is roughly from the era the rest of the park is themed after and it worked well as a festival area, which the park was lacking at the time. You could argue Oktoberfest should have covered that but Festa does a better job with that "Coney Island midway" feel than Oktoberfest does. This completely makes Festa Italia feel out of place from the rest of the park, because it is. And it was intentional.

I'd be all about Festa Italia changing themes like Hastings did to Ireland. Personally, I find it unnecessary. It's a good place to add some crappy, flashy amusement park flat rides and no one would care because it wouldn't affect the feel of the village as it would on other villages in the park.
 
I was prepared just to correct your characterization of Tempesto as a "roller coaster," since we know it is really a flat. But then you said that you wanted to make a weirdly-themed clone the spiritual center of gravity of your entire concept. While I applaud the well-thought out concept and agree that Festa is long overdue for a thematic update, I cannot support the direction you chose. In my opinion, we don't need to change everything to fit something that was shoehorned into the hamlet.

Apollo's Chariot is weeping, and it is your fault.
 
If the court reporter reads back my remarks, you’ll see that Tempesto AND the new flat would be the spiritual center of this concept. But let me be clear, Apollo is always gonna be the centerpiece of Festa. I don’t think this changes that.

I do think Festa is unfortunately destined to be the black sheep hamlet. I’d be happy with a Tempesto retheme and repaint, but its placement on top of Apollo is pretty unfixable. This was the only way I could kinda sorta make that work.

To be clear, this is the lazy route for BGW, a lot easier than a comprehensive Tempesto AND Apollo retheme. I value thematic consistency and think this is an actually feasible way for BGW to do that. I also think a Gerstlauer Sky Fly in that spot with that theme could still work even if everything else is untouched. If you take nothing else away from this concept, take Acrobata. That’s probably my favorite idea here.
 
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Festa has always felt like the park's junk drawer to me, to be honest. Almost anything that creates cohesion would be an improvement, in my opinion.

I just wouldn't have picked Tempesto as a starting point. Could your Gerstlauer Sky Fly be themed to a Greek myth?
 
Festa has always felt like the park's junk drawer to me, to be honest. Almost anything that creates cohesion would be an improvement, in my opinion.

I just wouldn't have picked Tempesto as a starting point. Could your Gerstlauer Sky Fly be themed to a Greek myth?
Easy one here, Pegasus or Icarus
 
Festa has always felt like the park's junk drawer to me, to be honest. Almost anything that creates cohesion would be an improvement, in my opinion.

I just wouldn't have picked Tempesto as a starting point. Could your Gerstlauer Sky Fly be themed to a Greek myth?
I only picked Tempesto as a starting point since I think theming Festa to myths would be moot with the Pantheon sub-hamlet. The point would be to distinguish Festa from San Marco and Pantheon, not make them more similar

I also like Tempesto’s theme in a vacuum and think it could fit in a slightly reworked Festa.
 
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I don't see Pantheon as separate from Festa. It has a nice plaza, but that doesn't make it any less part of the larger hamlet, in my opinion.

Especially since there has always been some mythological (or mythological-adjacent) theming there, I'm not sure why we wouldn't lean into it and link everything to Ancient Greece/Rome.
 
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Maybe I should’ve better emphasized how contingent this is on that aforementioned concept that links Pantheon directly to San Marco in a loop. In that case, the park could consider Pantheon part of San Marco, with the bridge being the transition into Festa. Hence why Pantheon remains untouched here
 
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