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The endless apologia has the same effect either way. Defending whatever this is as "good enough under the circumstances" just means "circumstances" will continue to arise to prevent full-circuit additions because they're more expensive upfront and make satisfied customers too efficiently. What suggests that the shuttle streak is at all likely to end with the addition of next thrill coaster? Why would Great Adventure get something full circuit or custom designed if they've successfully sold cheaper drag-and-drop alternatives to their customers?
What suggests that it's going to continue though? The only way I can see it continue is if they add a Vekoma Family Boomerang next. Flash wasn't bought by current management. Phantom Spire is in fact the ONLY shuttle thrill coaster purchased by the current management team, and its a shuttle because its a massive 375 foot tall launched coaster from a company that is NOT know for being cheap. I feel like you're actively trying to make something out of nothing here.
 
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Anyways....one thing I've been wondering is how this is going to interact with the boardwalk in terms of the entrance and queue location. With the extension of the boardwalk with the shoreline pier do we think the entrance goes to the back of that section or stay closer to where twister was? Feel like it makes more sense to have it be in the shoreline pier area because you should get a much better view of the tower.
 
Only time will truly tell, but based on what Ryan's already said, it's likely where Twister was.

I think this also makes the most sense considering they removed the games from the right side of the boardwalk. If the entrance is where twister was (with hopefully a large Cedar Fair-esque sign and plaza) the view of it would’ve been mostly blocked by the games from anyone coming from dream street. Now it’ll be wide open and the first thing you see straight ahead when entering the new look boardwalk.
 
I love the idea of a path under the stall, but until they re-develop the golden kingdom I feel like it should just be a photo op dead end for now (like the Blue Fire courtyard). A complete loop from Shoreline Pier to El Toro would be pretty darn long with nothing along it.
If we see netting installed they likely will be thinking path under stall. Otherwise I think unlikely.
 
If we see netting installed they likely will be thinking path under stall. Otherwise I think unlikely.
I’ve been assuming that this’ll be the same loose article policy as The Flash/El Toro/JDC where they’re not allowed at all, and there are double sided lockers. If that’s the case, I don’t think netting would be required to have guests under the coaster, since there’d be nothing to fall off.
 
I’ve been assuming that this’ll be the same loose article policy as The Flash/El Toro/JDC where they’re not allowed at all, and there are double sided lockers. If that’s the case, I don’t think netting would be required to have guests under the coaster, since there’d be nothing to fall off.
None of those coasters go over pathways though right? Even with strict policies you still likely will see netting to ensure safety.
 
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I’ve been assuming that this’ll be the same loose article policy as The Flash/El Toro/JDC where they’re not allowed at all, and there are double sided lockers. If that’s the case, I don’t think netting would be required to have guests under the coaster, since there’d be nothing to fall off.

At Carowinds, Fury 325 crosses over the entry pathway. They don't have double-sided lockers there, but they do have a strict policy on loose articles.
 
And Leviathan does the same at Canada's Wonderland.

I love the idea of a path under the stall, but until they re-develop the golden kingdom I feel like it should just be a photo op dead end for now (like the Blue Fire courtyard). A complete loop from Shoreline Pier to El Toro would be pretty darn long with nothing along it.

I think this is the biggest reason we may not see one right away, if ever. Certainly not until they know what they're doing with the Golden Kingdom area.
 
Did not expect the base legs of the tower to be so angled at this height... this one's gonna be weird, I can just feel it. Perhaps those join up and it becomes a 3-legged tower after all?

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Well, we're assuming a certain shape based on the footers and the old pre-viz's of it. What if the tower has a four-point base, as the footers indicate, but the points all converge at the top, like a Gulf oil derrick platform? I know you've already imagined that in your last but maybe it's going to be even narrower than that. Those two newest big supports are already angling to converge at a certain height. A narrow top would make curling around the outside near that height easier for the train and less speed required than if it were wrapping around a wider box shape.

What really has me wondering are the two v-shaped fittings on the outside of the latest supports. The bottom two are angled about right it looks like to anchor down to the two farthest footers. Or, connect to the lower segments of the final outer supports. Then there are the top fittings of the V that would support the back tower frame laterally. And I'd guess that pattern may continue up another 100'. Beyond that, I'm really intrigued how the structure will look. The new supports will merge together in an A shape at some point, and they're pretty sharply angled already so I wonder if where they meet is near the top or shorter. If shorter, how will the rear frame be supported going up to 375'? Some real geometry and engineering lies ahead.
 
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I tried to do my best to research and it's interesting - I didn't see many Mack coasters with a tower looking like this. It does fit in terms of other similar elements. Not saying it's good or bad or anything like that. Just love when companies are doing something new.
 
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