News Project 2027/Skyland/Purple: 375-ish Foot Tall Mack Rides Spinning Shuttle Coaster (Phantom Spire? Gargantuan Vertical Vengeance?)

[northdetective]

Slop dump

Sorry none of these are great. my sony alpha a65 itself is aging and the konica lenses I use are definitely aging. shoutout backwards compatibility

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How would this platform be accessed and what is it for? U can see in the first pic it goes down like ~30 feet and there's no ladder/elevator up to that point. presumably there never would/could be an evac on the tower with no brakes and the outward banking

 

[MikeGS6789]

How would this platform be accessed and what is it for? U can see in the first pic it goes down like ~30 feet and there's no ladder/elevator up to that point. presumably there never would/could be an evac on the tower with no brakes and the outward banking

There are mount points along one of the back legs of the tower for a ladder to be installed.

 

[WarmishSign]

Yeah, I'm very confused by that 382 claim... We have the FAA permit for 375, right? It's literally not allowed to be 382, no? Feels like there has to be some funny business being done with the math here.

Maybe the spot where the tower is sitting is lower than other parts of the site, so it’s 382 total, but 375 from the ground or smth? Or the total elevation change is 382, but the tower is 375?

 

[SixFlagsIssues]

Depending on the elevation change of the surface it might be like 382 feet from station height or something.

 

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He explains it

Ok so can I go northdetective for a moment?

At 375 I was like eh ok. 25 feet from 400. They don’t want to go higher. No big deal. Stinks but I get it …. But you’re now at 382 feet, and it’s kinda like you really couldn’t squeeze out 18 more feet ???

Train officially reaches 375 feet the video says btw

 

[northdetective]

love that all criticism at this point is "going northdetective." proud to represent my brave non-sheeple

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my gripe with the height now that it's built is that it doesn't APPEAR to be more than double that of El Toro. I know by the stats it almost exactly IS, but it really does not give ME the sense of absolute domination over the landscape that Kingda Ka once did. Has anyone gotten a pic from the bridge by Medusa/Mine Train?

 

[Nitro230]

love that all criticism at this point is "going northdetective." proud to represent my brave non-sheeple

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my gripe with the height now that it's built is that it doesn't APPEAR to be more than double that of El Toro. I know by the stats it almost exactly IS, but it really does not give ME the sense of absolute domination over the landscape that Kingda Ka once did. Has anyone gotten a pic from the bridge by Medusa/Mine Train?

Genuine question…..have you been to the park since Ka came down? Or since this ride went up?? Because walking around the park this thing has quite the presence. On the boardwalk it has the same presence if not better than its predecessor because the tower sits closer to the park. Pictures really don’t do it justice.

 

[northdetective]

Genuine question…..have you been to the park since Ka came down? Or since this ride went up?? Because walking around the park this thing has quite the presence. On the boardwalk it has the same presence if not better than its predecessor because the tower sits closer to the park. Pictures really don’t do it justice.

I've been to the park about 5 times since Kingda Ka went down I would estimate, I was there two days ago to go to Hurricane Harbor when it was 100 degrees so I didn't feel like going in when only the round-up was operating in shoreline pier and Nitro, Jersey Devil, Batman, Flash, and Joker were down in terms of coasters. I did take the pics I quoted before from the parking lot tho

It will surprise nobody that I was unimpressed by the height. It's recognizably lower than Kingda Ka. Like it's immediately apparent imo. I don't think that would matter if they didn't choose largely parallel but identifiably lesser gimmick slop to replace more impressive gimmick slop but that's what they chose.

 

[dubs]

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He explains it

Ok so can I go northdetective for a moment?

At 375 I was like eh ok. 25 feet from 400. They don’t want to go higher. No big deal. Stinks but I get it …. But you’re now at 382 feet, and it’s kinda like you really couldn’t squeeze out 18 more feet ???

Train officially reaches 375 feet the video says btw

My favorite part is all the people swearing this was only going to be 350ft of actual track you travel so this is funny. I am guessing there is a reason they didnt go to 400ft, it may have been much more expensive or there were concerns with going that high for longevity concerns. Remember kingda ka absolutely failed structurally and they had to close it earlier than expected. My bet is if you actually measured coasters, they dont align 1 to 1 with planned heights. Ground can be not exactly level or pouring concrete it might sit slightly higher. Given how big the footers are I dont know if it's crazy it's taller, that's only 1.8% off.

 

[sfgadvfan91]

A night time picture from last night. Wish I could've gotten it a bit later, but the storms ruined that.

Honestly, it feels like it has even more presence in the dark.

 

[ski4ever5]

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He explains it

Ok so can I go northdetective for a moment?

At 375 I was like eh ok. 25 feet from 400. They don’t want to go higher. No big deal. Stinks but I get it …. But you’re now at 382 feet, and it’s kinda like you really couldn’t squeeze out 18 more feet ???

Train officially reaches 375 feet the video says btw

Honestly, I’m kind of glad that they *didn’t* just give it another 18 feet of track, because then we would’ve gotten into the whole Orion “IS THIS A STRATACOASTER????” argument. Folks would’ve been out for blood over the fact that the train probably didn’t hit 400 feet, calling it a fake strata, etc.

At 382, with the train reaching around 375, it’s pretty solidly taller than Red Force, with enough wiggle room that everyone on the train should still be higher than 367 feet.

 

[sfgadvfan91]

Honestly, I’m kind of glad that they *didn’t* just give it another 18 feet of track, because then we would’ve gotten into the whole Orion “IS THIS A STRATACOASTER????” argument. Folks would’ve been out for blood over the fact that the train probably didn’t hit 400 feet, calling it a fake strata, etc.

At 382, with the train reaching around 375, it’s pretty solidly taller than Red Force, with enough wiggle room that everyone on the train should still be higher than 367 feet.

People spend way too much time arguing over petty stuff.

 

[dubs]

People spend way too much time arguing over petty stuff.

I mean there are people arguing on here and other places that the measurements cant be right because it either doesnt FEEL that tall to them or that you can't ever deviate from FAA filings lol

 

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A night time picture from last night. Wish I could've gotten it a bit later, but the storms ruined that.

Honestly, it feels like it has even more presence in the dark.

this thing needs a killer lighting package and it needs to fast

 

[Suspense]

I watched the video and I still don’t understand how they can just “measure it” and realize it’s taller. Isn’t there years of meticulous calculations and measurements involved in designing and manufacturing the ride? How could it be taller than they expected? Unless maybe the footer connections sit a bit higher than originally thought? Just don’t understand how that’s possible. Not saying it’s not actually 382, more so that I’d be concerned by Mack’s ability to deliver this ride safely if they didn’t calculate the max height properly lol

 

[dubs]

I watched the video and I still don’t understand how they can just “measure it” and realize it’s taller. Isn’t there years of meticulous calculations and measurements involved in designing and manufacturing the ride? How could it be taller than they expected? Unless maybe the footer connections sit a bit higher than originally thought? Just don’t understand how that’s possible. Not saying it’s not actually 382, more so that I’d be concerned by Mack’s ability to deliver this ride safely if they didn’t calculate the max height properly lol

you think being 1.8% off is a giant miss? it's 1.8% of a 375 foot ride. I dont think it's crazy the footers sit a little higher. No building has a zero % tolerance from plans.

 

[Zachary]

you think being 1.8% off is a giant miss?

Yes. These things are engineered to insanely tight tolerances. There's no way in hell the tower should ever just accidentally be 7 feet taller than it was designed to be.

I mean maybe grading below the highest point was done improperly or just hasn't been completed yet? If it's the former, that's a major mistake. If it's the latter, it's dishonest to be measuring and publicizing anything right now. I suspect it's more likely that there's some funny business being done with how exactly the point of grade is being selected below the tower—for example, selecting the lowest point of grade beneath the entire tower and using that for the "height above grade" calculation rather than the actual finished (which again, may not even be finalized yet!) grade directly beneath the highest point of the tower.

I haven't watched the video yet, but is there any mention of the FAA permit? I'll actually believe the tower is 382 feet tall if/when the park files an amendment with the FAA legally declaring it as such. Until then, I think this all smells mighty fishy.

Lastly, THIS is why coaster heights being measured by anything other than max continuous drop height is absolute bullshit, kids. SFGAdv shouldn't just be able to dig a hole under the highest point of this coaster to magically make it 7 feet taller. Riders physically experience the max drop height regardless of where exactly the highest point is located. It's obviously far more sane to use that number to compare coasters' heights, not super easily fungible, ever-evolving-due-to-erosion, numbers like max height above grade.

 

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you think being 1.8% off is a giant miss? it's 1.8% of a 375 foot ride. I dont think it's crazy the footers sit a little higher. No building has a zero % tolerance from plans.

To be fair. Even 0.08% off is a massive amount when it comes to geometrical alignment

Have you ever put furniture together and the hole for the screw is off by the slightest margin that it doesn’t fit or doesn’t even tighten? It Happens all the time. We deal with it because on a minor level like a piece of furniture designed to hold a lamp that stands 2 feet off the ground doesn’t come with an inherently large risk factor.

A rollercoaster is an entirely different story

 

[Nitro230]

They’re definitely doing some funny buisness here with the advertised height if this thing. I find it incredibly hard to believe that a manufacturer like Mack would make as big of a mistake as a 7 foot height difference. Unless they change the FAA report I would assume it’s Six Flags doing some funny buisness.

In the end it doesn’t really matter, it’s tall lol.

 

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Hear me out

Coliwood has been teasing the whole gargantuan thing for a little bit now. So much so that it seems too obvious he’s in on the gag.

What if, and it’s a big what if, but what if the 382 ft video is really teaser and a riddle….

They’ve done crazy things before for marketing campaigns

I googled what the numbers 3,8 and 2 have to do with sea creatures and this is what came up

“In the ocean, the numbers 3, 8, and 2 directly refer to the anatomy of the octopus. The octopus uniquely possesses 3 hearts and 8 arms (sometimes colloquially called tentacles). The 2 refers to how the hearts are split: 2 branchial hearts pump blood to the gills, while 1 systemic heart circulates blood to the rest of the body.“


Now what legendary sea monster relates to an octopus?

“The octopus has long inspired tales of terrifying sea monsters, most famously the legendary Kraken of Scandinavian folklore”



Insanely unlikely but we have less than a month left so let’s have fun with it.

In Coliwood’s video he had an expert confirm the height. That expert was a digital media coordinator. Not a structural engineer or anyone within the construction team.

Just sayin