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Unless they announce a number, we'll never know. Even if they do announce a number, we'll never know what it does or doesn't include so it will never be a useful point of comparison.

I think we can reasonably assume that they spent a lot, but not a fortune. Probably about as much as they're spending on Tormenta? It's a lot, but it's almost certainly not breaking the bank.
It’s gotta be one of the more expensive investments we’ve seen at a legacy SF park, if I had to guess, probably the most expensive we’ve seen since Ka/Toro
 
What suggests that the shuttle streak is at all likely to end with the addition of next thrill coaster?

We're swerving out into discussion of attractions beyond Phantom Spire so this really isn't the thread for this discussion. To answer you very briefly so we can hopefully move on though, shuttle coasters aren't INHERENTLY worse or INHERENTLY low-capacity, future major attractions are unlikely to be bought second-hand, future attractions are unlikely to be rushed in at the last minute during an enormous corporate merger, and leadership has changed since both Flash and Phantom Spire were bought—hopefully the 3rd time is the charm. No one has a crystal ball so no one can provide you better than that.

So anyway, Phantom Spire.
 
The endless apologia has the same effect either way. Defending whatever this is as "good enough under the circumstances" just means "circumstances" will continue to arise to prevent full-circuit additions because they're more expensive upfront and make satisfied customers too efficiently. What suggests that the shuttle streak is at all likely to end with the addition of next thrill coaster? Why would Great Adventure get something full circuit or custom designed if they've successfully sold cheaper drag-and-drop alternatives to their customers?
What suggests that it's going to continue though? The only way I can see it continue is if they add a Vekoma Family Boomerang next. Flash wasn't bought by current management. Phantom Spire is in fact the ONLY shuttle thrill coaster purchased by the current management team, and its a shuttle because its a massive 375 foot tall launched coaster from a company that is NOT know for being cheap. I feel like you're actively trying to make something out of nothing here.
 
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Anyways....one thing I've been wondering is how this is going to interact with the boardwalk in terms of the entrance and queue location. With the extension of the boardwalk with the shoreline pier do we think the entrance goes to the back of that section or stay closer to where twister was? Feel like it makes more sense to have it be in the shoreline pier area because you should get a much better view of the tower.
 
Only time will truly tell, but based on what Ryan's already said, it's likely where Twister was.

I think this also makes the most sense considering they removed the games from the right side of the boardwalk. If the entrance is where twister was (with hopefully a large Cedar Fair-esque sign and plaza) the view of it would’ve been mostly blocked by the games from anyone coming from dream street. Now it’ll be wide open and the first thing you see straight ahead when entering the new look boardwalk.
 
I love the idea of a path under the stall, but until they re-develop the golden kingdom I feel like it should just be a photo op dead end for now (like the Blue Fire courtyard). A complete loop from Shoreline Pier to El Toro would be pretty darn long with nothing along it.
If we see netting installed they likely will be thinking path under stall. Otherwise I think unlikely.
 
If we see netting installed they likely will be thinking path under stall. Otherwise I think unlikely.
I’ve been assuming that this’ll be the same loose article policy as The Flash/El Toro/JDC where they’re not allowed at all, and there are double sided lockers. If that’s the case, I don’t think netting would be required to have guests under the coaster, since there’d be nothing to fall off.
 
I’ve been assuming that this’ll be the same loose article policy as The Flash/El Toro/JDC where they’re not allowed at all, and there are double sided lockers. If that’s the case, I don’t think netting would be required to have guests under the coaster, since there’d be nothing to fall off.
None of those coasters go over pathways though right? Even with strict policies you still likely will see netting to ensure safety.
 
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I’ve been assuming that this’ll be the same loose article policy as The Flash/El Toro/JDC where they’re not allowed at all, and there are double sided lockers. If that’s the case, I don’t think netting would be required to have guests under the coaster, since there’d be nothing to fall off.

At Carowinds, Fury 325 crosses over the entry pathway. They don't have double-sided lockers there, but they do have a strict policy on loose articles.
 
And Leviathan does the same at Canada's Wonderland.

I love the idea of a path under the stall, but until they re-develop the golden kingdom I feel like it should just be a photo op dead end for now (like the Blue Fire courtyard). A complete loop from Shoreline Pier to El Toro would be pretty darn long with nothing along it.

I think this is the biggest reason we may not see one right away, if ever. Certainly not until they know what they're doing with the Golden Kingdom area.
 
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