News Project 2027/Purple: Delayed “World Record Breaking Coaster" (Phantom Spire?)

[Krusty]

With the way that photo of the alleged spike footer is framed, it does line up nicely with the plot of Slingshot. I know the rest of the upcharge attractions are going, not entirely sure about Slingshot specifically, but it would open up some land across the midway... imagine this thing stretching overhead across the new Boardwalk.

I'm still firmly in the camp of this not being full circuit or extended beyond what we're expecting, I'll say. At most I could possibly see them adding a spike, but even that is a lot of extra steel and effort to add to an already expensive addition.

 

[mkj3322]

Im going to be on the side of no spike. While it would be cool, what purpose would it actually serve the ride? The inverted stall limits the speed going in/out. A spike just doesn't fit the layout.

 

[Mojosdad]

Not to specifically get anyone's hopes up here, but if they're pouring a new set of footers now, there may be a lot more footers to be poured over the next 14 months before this ride is supposed to open. Full-circuit anyone?

I have been wondering this for a while now.

 

[RDL]

Hate to be that guy, but from the videos, I can't really see anything that would indicate a possible spike. Would love to be proven wrong though

 

[Adventure UP]

That’s an old planter with a tree. I thought it was a footer at first as well but it’s just a leftover from the boardwalk.

Yeah I did not see any additional footers and was curious cause it was difficult to see.

I don't know if a spike would make a lot of sense to me. I think it'd be hard to justify prolonging the cycle length of a shuttle coaster that is already pretty likely to struggle with capacity.

Yeah a large spike on this coaster being a shuttle could cause longer wait times etc. If it has a turntable overall capacity could be better. In my opinion, I do think a spike would complement this layout well, especially if this coaster is 400 ft it would be impressive. However, because their is no evidence of any additional footers to steer away from the concept layout yet, this seems unlikely for now.

 

[GASM]

I shot them a message. Also, they posted a video of Ka and Lantern’s trains sitting dormant

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Since the first time we saw them in the boneyard, it’s been so funny to me that Ka’s trains are nicely wrapped up and GL’s trains are just kinda thrown out there like the uncomfortable scrap metal they are.

 

[Vanewsman]

Since the first time we saw them in the boneyard, it’s been so funny to me that Ka’s trains are nicely wrapped up and GL’s trains are just kinda thrown out there like the uncomfortable scrap metal they are.

Does anyone know what the color is the track would be?

 

[Adventure UP]

I think a lot of the general opinion is depending on the actual height of this thing, if it actually hits that 400 ft mark I think enthusiasts will get over themselves and it'll be a hit. If it comes up short of that 400 foot mark.....we might never hear the end of it even if its a good ride.

I definitely think this can't be the only major addition of the next few years though, a big part of the argument for Ka's removal was how much it's maintenance cost. I feel like it's pretty well known that the later additions to the park under legacy Six Flags were smaller because Ka and Toro were costly rides to operate. Well now they've removed Ka for a much more cost effective option, that excuse is gone, there has to be more to come after this addition.

One of the things that came to my mind and has been overlooked was when Ryan recently said at the event that the ”size and scale of the coaster is not seen in a modern era” This is exciting because he may of been referring to a strata coaster as we have not seen one ground up in America since KA and this coaster is heavily rumored to be 400 ft from the survey!

 

[ski4ever5]

One of the things that came to my mind and has been overlooked was when Ryan recently said at the event that the ”size and scale of the coaster is not seen in a modern era” This is exciting because he may of been referring to a strata coaster as we have not seen one ground up in America since KA and this coaster is heavily rumored to be 400 ft from the survey!

In my mind Ka and Dragster are no longer modern era roller coasters. The statement also rings a little false with Falcons Flight operating over at Qiddiya, but I think he's just saying that it's bigger than the B&M Gigas, Dives, and RMC's that've recently been considered a park's "Big" investment.

 

[GASM]

This may sound harsh, but they’re certainly not modern and are/were relics of an era when parks were convinced “tall/fast = better,” and as grateful as I am for having gotten on Ka as many times as I did (plus a couple rides on TTD many years ago), I’m honestly thankful that we’re past those days.

I really don’t think Ka would’ve been reimagined even if TT2 was flawless in 2024. Surely it would’ve at least been discussed as an option, but it wasn’t nearly as popular and had the added factor of Zumanjaro (probably the single least popular amusement ride over 400ft tall ever built). Instead, they’re getting a fully new ride and a first of its kind prototype, something the park was once known for.

 

[Clear]

I want to believe a spike is possible but I genuinely do not see it even from these pictures and fly overs.

And in truth, I kinda don’t want a spike. I want this to be exactly what it is. Nothing more. Nothing less. Let it be the shuttle Mack tower spinner we saw in surveys (gotta be 400ft tho). Let it be pretty decent and attract a crowd.
This way, there’s way more available space for a full circuit ground up coaster and more flat rides in the future.

I don’t want this taking up more space than it needs

 

[MrBradferd]

Whos to say this isint just going to be some small 100ft spike just to get the ride going..

 

[the_pantsmith]

I’m just worried a spike will make the ride time too long with not many usable block sections. Hope they’re getting creative with throughput.

 

[Nitro230]

Whos to say this isint just going to be some small 100ft spike just to get the ride going..

Looking at the positioning of the footers right now I can't imagine it being the case, and it seems like they're done with the footers (aside from maybe final ones supporting the tower, it looks like they still need to be finished). The big questions I have now are how high does the track actually reach? and what does this mean for what is left of the golden kingdom?

 

[sharpr1]

It was someone mistaking landscaping for a possible footer and speculating if it could be for a spike that the idea even came up recently. There has been nothing to suggest there would be a spike on this new coaster, especially since all footers and the layout to-date show there isn't anything they've added behind the station where a spike could go. And logistically it doesn't look like they would add anything more behind there. The layout would have to have been placed very differently to accommodate a spike. Would've been neat, though.

Looking at the positioning of the footers right now I can't imagine it being the case, and it seems like they're done with the footers (aside from maybe final ones supporting the tower, it looks like they still need to be finished). The big questions I have now are how high does the track actually reach? and what does this mean for what is left of the golden kingdom?

I assume we'll see nothing happen with the Golden Kingdom area for a few years. Reserved it seems for another project and its theming. The focus is clearly on the front of the Boardwalk from GL's plot down to the old Right Stuff/Twister/parachute drop area for now. Then, I'd imagine they work down to the boardwalk game stands, go-cart track and Right Stuff shed. Multiple flats or one big family ride could go in the go cart/shed area, as there once was pre-1993. After that, if the park's doing better, I'd think they'd put a ride in where Ka/Rolling Thunder was, whether it be a family themed coaster or a big thrill coaster.

 

[xenithwav]

These are great photos and videos. I definitely don't think this will be full circuit. I agree with @RDL in the sense that I don't think there will be a spike, but I hope to be proven wrong.

I think if there is going to be a spike on the back end, it would be very small (100 ft or less) just to build momentum for a swing launch. But inevitably, this does take away ride time and I feel it's not really necessary. The train only has to make it to the top of the stall where it will then hit another boost, and I think it would have plenty of runway launching straight out of the station to achieve this.

I do like @Krusty's point as well that it lines up with the Slingshot plot. It is interesting, but I agree in that this would just add more money to an already expensive addition, would likely sever much of the boardwalk path from being walkable, and only adds more ride time to a coaster that's already not full-circuit. It would be pretty sick though.

I'm baffled by the size of that footing just in front of that last row of transfer footings before the launch footings. I'd imagine it's this size since it will be holding switch track components for the maintenance offload, but still something cool I noticed. Otherwise, everything looks about as expected! Love to see the amount of supports they already have on sight, and hopefully we see some of that purple track arriving soon.

As far as the old Ka and Lantern trains, as well as other parts of those rides they may have salvaged like track, look out for those as theming pieces

 

[zdesigns]

I don't know much of this project because I've barely been watching it unfold, but could the 450ft crane only be the first crane because ka was 450 ft. And the crane was 520ft so if we do the math then 70-450 it =380ft tall.

But would it make sense to have that crane as a first crane and then bring in another taller on later down the road to top it off or something. I'm not a construction expert but I'm really just trying to bring some hope to the table here can someone tell me if this is a possibility if so then a strata may have a possibility

 

[Nitro230]

I don't know much of this project because I've barely been watching it unfold, but could the 450ft crane only be the first crane because ka was 450 ft. And the crane was 520ft so if we do the math then 70-450 it =380ft tall.

But would it make sense to have that crane as a first crane and then bring in another taller on later down the road to top it off or something. I'm not a construction expert but I'm really just trying to bring some hope to the table here can someone tell me if this is a possibility if so then a strata may have a possibility

Ka was a unique circumstance, at the time there were very few cranes tall enough to get the job done so the crane they chose was honestly a little taller than it needs to be. I remember reading someone look at other large coaster projects to calculate the difference between ride height and crane height, the gap with Ka was a little larger than normal. A maximum height for this project would be 420 ft (incredibly unlikely). My best guess is part of the ride reaches 400 ft, but it might not be the actual track that reaches that height, rather the support structure. Again, this is a complete guess but I could def see this end up being the case.

 

[zdesigns]

ok yes it was just a thought I didn't know ka's was larger than normal i'll look into the height ratio of crane to coaster soon.

 

[northdetective]

I want to believe a spike is possible but I genuinely do not see it even from these pictures and fly overs.

And in truth, I kinda don’t want a spike. I want this to be exactly what it is. Nothing more. Nothing less. Let it be the shuttle Mack tower spinner we saw in surveys (gotta be 400ft tho). Let it be pretty decent and attract a crowd.
This way, there’s way more available space for a full circuit ground up coaster and more flat rides in the future.

I don’t want this taking up more space than it needs

This is mostly how I feel, except I'd replace "Let it be pretty decent and attract a crowd" with "Let it create its own crowd with awful throughput accentuated by the precise opposite of the War on Lines (mass removal of flats) in order to further erode the suspension of consumer disbelief that a park can be enjoyable without being blatant about the fact that it's a captive profit extraction zone" while anticipatorily rolling my eyes at the suggestion I should be "thankful" to see such a large investment. I simultaneously think this thing is an abomination and wish that we could get it over with in order to more accurately assess the ability of the gaping self-inflicted gunshot wound in Great Adventure's foot to heal.

I worry about my ability to regulate my emotions in the presence of the Mack tower layout as shown in the survey when I think about the distilled contempt it represents. That's not a threat but it might make me cry. That's why I hope they put it in a lighthouse to distract me