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Great Adventurer said:
The King was excellent in this regard.

There's only one way to find out for sure (and I'm certainly hoping for the best!), but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least somewhat worried about my personal capacity for re-riding a Spinner.
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I agree "The King" was excellent and conceivably more "re-ridable" for a larger audience than a spinner for the reasons stated above. As I get older, I understand the whole centripetal force, getting dizzy more easily syndrome that happens. While I still ride coasters that spin, I find them less enjoyable than I once did because they bring with it some minor mental pain.

If the cedar fair execs have their way, I would tend toward the new coaster not being a prototype spinner because they'd be taking on a lot risks. While the Mack spinner model has a proven track record of success the magnitude, height, shuttle aspect are all unchartered territory for that model. I would think they would go with a ride with a proven track record like a Mack, however make more manageable improvements to an already great ride model.

In short I'd say, can the ride be a Mack spinner? I'd say absolutely yes. I would just posit that it may be smaller than 400 feet (But still tall enough to make a statement) and not as fast as ka, while breaking other records in track length, number of launches etc. for that ride type.
 
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Kingda Ka was really more of a NJ pride thing than anything. It was something for NJ residents to really be proud of when we really had nothing else to look at and say “hey, this is what we got!” and seeing something that nobody else really had, the worlds tallest and at the time the worlds fastest coaster.

I agree with the posts above in that the Mack spinner is objectively the best Ka replacement. A giga would be cool, but the Mack spinner would be way more of a GP magnet, and I think would be a good enough ride experience for enthusiasts to appreciate it as well. Cedar Point and Great Adventure would end up having two completely different stratas, both great in their own ways, instead of them being direct copies of one another. If the Mack spinner gets great reviews, I could absolutely see people who spend a lot of time at Hershey coming over here to ride it.

Ka was also never the best coaster in the world at any point. It was a huge record breaker, but that’s all it was. If Toro was to get torn down, sure, replace it with the best ride on the planet. But Ka? I think the spinner would unironically be the best ride at a lot of parks, and would easily be the 2nd best ride in the park out the gate here behind Toro. The people saying Ka needs to be replaced by a giga intamin need a reality check.

And by the way, I think something of that magnitude is planned. They’re definitely going to put something over where Medusa and the northern star arena is in order to draw more attention to that area, especially since there’s a massive restaurant over there that they want more people to go to. It’s not based on anything concrete, just a prediction, but it’s one I feel really good about. Medusa is probably running out of time, so I wouldn’t be shocked to see it go before 2030.
 
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Medusa absolutely does not get the ridership to justify a retrack. It’s consistently a station wait, staircase wait at most. It may be a pipe dream for it to even be relocated at its age, which seems to be a large consideration for B&Ms.

Truthfully, I’m shocked they even bothered repainting it during the retheme and didn’t just throw something together to work with the purple/blue, especially when its retheme came shortly before they started doing work in the Great Arena area.
 
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Eh I know the rumor is out there that Medusa might go after 2026(?) but I don't really see a solid reason it gets replaced.

Space isn't exactly an issue at GADV, B&M's are very reliable, and its definitely the victim of being at a dead section of the park. Closest attraction is Log Flume (which is basically open 65% of the year) and the Runaway Mine Train. If they did throw a project there in 2028-ish it would give Medusa a 4th life. If Medusa's days are number then Batman's would be too, built 5 years earlier. So its more about people not wanting to trek out that way for only Medusa. Wasn't there a rumour around this time last year they were doing survey work back behind the arena?

Speaking of B&M's... Been said, but lets bring it back up, why remove KA and Green Lantern if its only a Mack Tower? Spinner would easily fit in KA's plot. You would think they would have kept Green Lantern around a few more seasons if they didn't need the land for the new attraction. Flip side, they are adding a 2nd roller coaster in the GL spot or a different attraction. Also all that dead land where Rolling Thunder's turn around used to be in terms of the new attraction(s)
 
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fingerblaster22 said:
Eh I know the rumor is out there that Medusa might go after 2026(?) but I don't really see a solid reason it gets replaced.

Space isn't exactly an issue at GADV, B&M's are very reliable, and its definitely the victim of being at a dead section of the park. Closest attraction is Log Flume (which is basically open 65% of the year) and the Runaway Mine Train. If they did throw a project there in 2028-ish it would give Medusa a 4th life. If Medusa's days are number then Batman's would be too, built 5 years earlier. So its more about people not wanting to trek out that way for only Medusa. Wasn't there a rumour around this time last year they were doing survey work back behind the arena?

Speaking of B&M's... Been said, but lets bring it back up, why remove KA and Green Lantern if its only a Mack Tower? Spinner would easily fit in KA's plot. You would think they would have kept Green Lantern around a few more seasons if they didn't need the land for the new attraction. Flip side, they are adding a 2nd roller coaster in the GL spot or a different attraction. Also all that dead land where Rolling Thunder's turn around used to be in terms of the new attraction(s)
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GL was at the end of its service life already and it could be argued that it’s been that way for awhile. Medusa was built over 25 years ago and doesn’t get the ridership to justify keeping it around. They’re gonna want something more modern that will bring more people to that section of the park.
 
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I think the only roller coaster in the park that would ever get the Hulk treatment would be Nitro. It’s easily the most ridden coaster in the park every year and among the most ridden in the entire chain. Its the only coaster in the park that’s popular enough to justify a full retracking.
 
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At the park today. From the top of Superman, I can see concrete has been poured in pretty much all the footers that have rebar cages. No pier caps poured yet. I will say, it does appear that the footers begin to deviate from the straight path slightly (as in, a turn) towards the part of the site closest to Twister’s plot. Could indicate a turn into the station (which could further point to a full circuit layout).

There’s one footing/pier cap in particular that looked larger than the others. Wasn’t substantially but from what I could see, was noteworthy.

There’s also a large rectangular hole cut along that linear path of footings that’s already been started. This hole is the farthest back (closest to Twister’s plot/Parachutes). Looks like it is behind the “turning motion” trajectories as well. Could indicate a spike with a turn under it (e.g. Top Thrill 2)

If it’s a linear layout, looks like it’ll cut into the parking lot more (won’t follow Ka’s original path).

Excuse the shitty mockup, but this is kind of what I gathered. Green is Ka (RIP), red is the trajectory of the footings and the aggressive red dash is that large rectangular hole cut.
 

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xenithwav said:
At the park today. From the top of Superman, I can see concrete has been poured in pretty much all the footers that have rebar cages. No pier caps poured yet. I will say, it does appear that the footers begin to deviate from the straight path slightly (as in, a turn) towards the part of the site closest to Twister’s plot. Could indicate a turn into the station (which could further point to a full circuit layout).

There’s one footing/pier cap in particular that looked larger than the others. Wasn’t substantially but from what I could see, was noteworthy.

There’s also a large rectangular hole cut along that linear path of footings that’s already been started. This hole is the farthest back (closest to Twister’s plot/Parachutes). Looks like it is behind the “turning motion” trajectories as well. Could indicate a spike with a turn under it (e.g. Top Thrill 2)

If it’s a linear layout, looks like it’ll cut into the parking lot more (won’t follow Ka’s original path).

Excuse the shitty mockup, but this is kind of what I gathered. Green is Ka (RIP), red is the trajectory of the footings and the aggressive red dash is that large rectangular hole cut.
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So they’ve continued construction despite the announcement? That’s good news atleast
 
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Excuse the shitty mockup, but this is kind of what I gathered. Green is Ka (RIP), red is the trajectory of the footings and the aggressive red dash is that large rectangular hole cut.
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That mock up is priceless. If you rotate it 180 degrees and add a few more lines, it would appear we have a large evil caterpillar that is just leaving the scene of a crime.
 
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RDL said:
GL was at the end of its service life already and it could be argued that it’s been that way for awhile. Medusa was built over 25 years ago and doesn’t get the ridership to justify keeping it around. They’re gonna want something more modern that will bring more people to that section of the park.
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End of service lift based on what information? It opened in 97', after Batman. That is simply pure speculation.

If that is the case, Nitro must only have 2-3 years left then and a few hunred other B&M's in the world must be closing too.

Only argument is low ridership which was highlighted in my last post.
 
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harry580 said:
maybe the whole delayed to 2027 thing is not true and that ride is still opening in 2026
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My view on it is that they’re gonna try to get it done for 2026 but wanna cover themselves due to all the delays they’ve had lately (for various reasons: Flash VV, Quantum Accelerator, etc).

Or they’re just getting as much done now as they can so that when it gets to installing track or whatever part of the process may be held up right now, they can move forward quickly
 
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Unlikely, the current construction seems like it would be the station for the new ride and it’s in the perfect location for the Mack Spinner. Not the only construction that we will see this year though, there are markers in the Dare Devil Dive plot as well. My gut is telling me it’s the spinning mouse coming over from SFA.
 
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