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I believe most of the zero g stall is going to be launched and you will get a boost after it before the tower.

This. @CoasterMac's mockup had to make guesses on the tower, but the triple launch on the way there is definitely the setup we're all expecting.

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Maybe it’s just the angle but that stall track so far doesn’t seem to have the setup for anything. Can someone use an overhead to show how far along the footers the stall is installed?
 
I mean not to sound difficult because I know some people post while at the park, but discerning scale of what is done and references from other posts is very challenging at times. From the angles of the pictures my assumption is they were about 40-50% through the stall.
 
I mean not to sound difficult because I know some people post while at the park, but discerning scale of what is done and references from other posts is very challenging at times. From the angles of the pictures my assumption is they were about 40-50% through the stall.

Sorry I'm on my phone so this is the best I can draw at the moment. The 'Y' set of footers directly ahead of the station has been completed, along with four of the 'straddle footers'.
 

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Sorry I'm on my phone so this is the best I can draw at the moment. The 'Y' set of footers directly ahead of the station has been completed, along with four of the 'straddle footers'.

Ha, great minds. Just did my own too:

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Those are the footers we've seen used so far I believe. That stall is CRAZY long.
 
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I am somewhat worried this is resembling the 200 foot concept rather than the 400 foot tower.
The inversion doesn’t seem like it’s going to get extremely taller than it is now which to be is a sure sign. Then knowing it was going to coexist with Ka, I can’t see the park operating two 400 foot tower coasters. This week should be very telling
Okay a few things. I'm not 100% sure where people are getting the "it was supposed to coexist with Ka" idea from but it's only partially true. Ka was supposed to close last year around June before Zumi broke and forced the early closure. This ride was supposed to open this year with construction beginning last season while ka was still standing. I sincerely doubt this ride would've gone vertical before Ka was already demolished. When it comes to the whole "the waiting list meant that this was planned to operate with ka" that is also not completely true. This was a ride Cedar Fair had planned for a while at their other parks before it was finally built at Great Adventure. I would bet that they put in an order with Mack a while ago and just altered the original plans when they decided to make it Ka's replacement. It's possible it could've operated at the same time as ka....had the merger not happened and this went to a different park while Ka got it's planned refurbishment. The crane that is coming is 450 feet, my honest expectation is this will hit 400 feet exactly. The stall just looks short because the launch makes it necessary for the train to be fully inverted way earlier than a normal stall would.
 
Ha, great minds. Just did my own too:

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Those are the footers we've seen used so far I believe. That stall is CRAZY long.
It's honestly going to be crazy being launched inverted like that. I think people are underestimating this thing.

What if it's not a spinner though? Other than the survey, is there any indication it will be a spinner?
 
Okay a few things. I'm not 100% sure where people are getting the "it was supposed to coexist with Ka" idea from but it's only partially true. Ka was supposed to close last year around June before Zumi broke and forced the early closure. This ride was supposed to open this year with construction beginning last season while ka was still standing. I sincerely doubt this ride would've gone vertical before Ka was already demolished. When it comes to the whole "the waiting list meant that this was planned to operate with ka" that is also not completely true. This was a ride Cedar Fair had planned for a while at their other parks before it was finally built at Great Adventure. I would bet that they put in an order with Mack a while ago and just altered the original plans when they decided to make it Ka's replacement. It's possible it could've operated at the same time as ka....had the merger not happened and this went to a different park while Ka got it's planned refurbishment. The crane that is coming is 450 feet, my honest expectation is this will hit 400 feet exactly. The stall just looks short because the launch makes it necessary for the train to be fully inverted way earlier than a normal stall would.
During the ACE event last year Ryan answered a question during the Q&A with something similar to "There was a timeline in which Ka and the new coaster could have existed side by side". I was at the event but without a video of it I might be slightly off on the wording. Assuming Ka was to close in 2025 it may have been coming down as work on purple was going up.
 
My thoughts are still:

- 400 foot tower, 350 foot max height for the train
- The launch fins will continue about 25% up the tower.
 
The survey we got back in mid 2024 claimed the tower would be 400ft

That’s why I simply don’t buy the idea that a 200ft version of this ride was always the plan and that it was going to operate next to Ka. As @Nitro230 said, Ka was meant to close last year, and this ride was supposed to open this year.

Whether or not the ride will actually be in that 400ft range remains to be seen, but at the very least it should shut down the idea that the ride was always going to be only 200ft tall
 
Prediction: it’ll be a 400 foot tower but the coaster itself will hit like 370 or something and thoosies will lose their shit

To be fair, if riders don't experience a 400ft drop, I don't consider it a strata. My position has been (and continues to be) that replacing a strata with anything but a strata would be a VERY disappointing move. Sadly, I do think the crane info suggests that, by my definition, there's a fair chance this isn't a strata. Hopefully I'm wrong, but my optimism re: the strata question definitely dipped following the crane news.

Obviously I think this coaster will be insanely thrilling and absurdly fun whether riders experience a 375 foot drop or a 405 foot drop, but I do feel like SFGAdv will have been shortchanged regardless if that does come to pass. SFGAdv didn't just have one of the only two stratas in the country, it had the taller and faster of the two. Seeing that knocked all the way down to a tall giga instead would suck a lot (prestige-wise) in my opinion—and ultimately these are primarily prestige-driven coasters of you ask me.
 
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It’s nobody’s fault but your own that you can’t wrap your head around roller coasters having a shelf life and not being able to last forever. Grow up.
It's nobody's fault but your own that you're so bitter about my feelings that don't affect you that you try to pigeonhole me as a Kingda Ka defender because you can't wrap your head around the fact that I have explicitly stated I didn't care for it much and I think a miniature railroad would've been a better investment than this shuttle. Grow up.

To be fair, if riders don't experience a 400ft drop, I don't consider it a strata. My position has been (and continues to be) that replacing a strata with anything but a strata would be a VERY disappointing move. Sadly I do think the crane info suggests that, by my definition, this is fairly unlikely to be a strata. Hopefully I'm wrong, but my optimism re: the strata question definitely dipped following the crane news.

Obviously I think this coaster will be insanely thrilling and absurdly fun whether riders experience a 375 foot drop or a 405 foot drop, but I do feel like SFGAdv will have been shortchanged regardless if that does come to pass. SFGAdv didn't just have one of the only two stratas in the country, it had the taller and faster of the two. Seeing that knocked all the way down to a tall giga instead will suck a lot prestige-wise in my opinion—and ultimately these are primarily prestige-driven coasters of you ask me.

This is such an interesting take to me Zachary. I guess where we differ is what I feel is perceptible as something for guests to feel shortchanged by. I think the stats mattered for Kingda Ka and Kingda Ka mattered for the stats, but we essentially all know this is going to be shorter and slower. I don't think the strata "prestige" is something to be regained, it was a part of the park's identity that was done away with. I don't disagree that prestige does matter, I just think Great Adventure is gonna have to earn it back with northdetective-certified "worthwhile experiences" because they're not earning it back with stats and gimmicks and shuttles, partly because anything will pale in comparison to The Superlative Stats and Gimmick Coaster they've done away with
 
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