Project 2025/Caldera: Rapterra (Launched B&M Wing Coaster)

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Yeah every once in a while you do meet somebody who 305 hits for and yeah then it’s 100% their favorite. But yeah the comment I get on that is “too much”

Interestingly, I recently had a friend choose not to ride Backlot due to its helix being “too much” while we rode. He then rode 305 afterwards, which is the most “drake meme” thing I’ve ever seen at a theme park.

But I certainly expect this new ride to be on every piece of marketing material for years. Once they rebrand 305 then they can really push a “Top 5” in the park between new 305, TT, Hawk Timber Striker (/s), Dominator, and Grizzly. That is a STRONG top 5 “headliners” for any park honestly. I can’t wait for 2025.
 
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When I was working at KD and we would have down time, I would often ask guest over the mic what their favorite ride in the park was, and I got a lot of mixed/unexpected answers but the ones I heard the most were Dominator, TT, FOF, and P305. Not in any specific order but those were the heavy hitters with honorable mentions of grizzly and… TUMBILI?!?!? Jk I heard Tumbili like twice but still.
 
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Jonesta6 said:
Volcano... May not have been the most reliable or even the best layout. But between the launch and inverting rollout, it's hard to find anyone that didn't like it.

This wing seems like an homage - it's got a launch, inverting elements, and B&M usually make a pretty smooth tracking coaster in general. So we'll see what happens, but my guess is it'll be a crowd-pleaser
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I get a lot of hate for this but Volcano was always tops of my overate list. I at 70 credits and Volcano is my 20th favorite on the list.
 
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The point my being that this will likely become the “must ride” coaster in the park because it should be a people eater, will be smooth and graceful, and likely be very well themed. Combine that all together and you have a recipe for a very strong ride. It may become even more of a crowd pleaser than dominator is, and dominator can clock a 45 minute wait frequently
 
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I REALLY like how it's going to zoom out over the pathway that will add a very cool dynamic to Jungle X.

Also agree with @horsesboy if Volcano didn't actually have a volcano featured nobody would talk about it compared to other rides. Ride was excellent until you came out of the volcano for 3 slow barrel rolls then epic downward sweeping drop into darkness and..............brakes it's over.
 
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Coasternerd said:
The point my being that this will likely become the “must ride” coaster in the park because it should be a people eater, will be smooth and graceful, and likely be very well themed. Combine that all together and you have a recipe for a very strong ride. It may become even more of a crowd pleaser than dominator is, and dominator can clock a 45 minute wait frequently
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It won't be eating any people with that 20 person train capacity. It may end up as bad or worse than Volcano was lines wise.
 
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rswashdc said:
It won't be eating any people with that 20 person train capacity. It may end up as bad or worse than Volcano was lines wise.
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Volcano had 16 passenger trains that often ran only allowing the first 3 cars to load due to its probability of rolling back… whereas this B&M shouldn’t have that issue. Plus, this runs 20 passenger trains.
 
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b.mac said:
Even if it was running at 30 trains per hour (2 minutes per dispatch) it would still have a higher hourly capacity than 90% of Volcano's life.
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This quote was in relation to Thunderbird at Holiday World but it also applies for KD Wing. The added (and more consistent) seating capacity will be a massive improvement in hourly capacity compared to Volcano.
 
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Ride time for this ride will be about sixty seconds. (Measured from parked in station, until reparked in station. This is also assuming the train ahead is dispatched in time; about a fourty-five second unload-load time.) This is about the same as Patheon and Thunderbird.
Assuming an exactly sixty second parked to parked time, and five row trains; 20 people times sixty dispatches an hour give us a theoretical capacity of 1,200 people per hour.
On a busy day, this ride will be competing against P305, Dominator (if it it running three trains), and Racer75 (running both sides) for most riders per hour in the park.
 
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jscll said:
Ride time for this ride will be about sixty seconds. (Measured from parked in station, until reparked in station. This is also assuming the train ahead is dispatched in time; about a fourty-five second unload-load time.) This is about the same as Patheon and Thunderbird.
Assuming an exactly sixty second parked to parked time, and five row trains; 20 people times sixty dispatches an hour give us a theoretical capacity of 1,200 people per hour.
On a busy day, this ride will be competing against P305, Dominator (if it it running three trains), and Racer75 (running both sides) for most riders per hour in the park.
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This hypothetical dispatch seems really unlikely with KDs staffing and operational processes. The rides with larger ride capacity do better at KD in terms of throughput.

My gut is this will be more akin to Twisted Timbers or Flight of Fear throughput wise, unless KD really commits staff to it.
 
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rswashdc said:
This hypothetical dispatch seems really unlikely with KDs staffing and operational processes.
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One minute could happen at KD but probably not. On a good day you see TT getting ~1:20 and Dom ~1:50, with roughly 2/3 the seats to check it all comes down to loose article policy and who the crew is, I wouldn't expect it to regularly go over 2 minutes tho and around 600 actual throughput isn't bad.
 
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if its themed to the jungle, I like it themed to birds (like a macaw themed roller coaster)
 
Is there any other "fire bird" type being that's similar to a phoenix they could theme it to? If they do that it ties into Volcano sorta but not sure if they will go that route.
 
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