If it’s a 2025 project, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve already signed on the dotted line for it.
Project 2025/Caldera: Rapterra (Launched B&M Wing Coaster)
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^Agreed. ~16 months out, I would assume this one's locked in. At least I hope so.
It's close. Drachen Spire was put on ice in March of the year before its debut. COVID was a more exceptional circumstance than this merger and the shelving of Spire still resulted in a new Intamin in the pipeline for BGW—they just went a dramatically different direction.
I think KD 2025 is probably safe, but the confidence level isn't super high in that assessment.
I think KD 2025 is probably safe, but the confidence level isn't super high in that assessment.
I don’t see why this project would be put on ice when this and the merger were being planned at the same time. It’s not like these talks are anything new.
Can’t wait for Jungle X-Flight.
KD desperately needs a replacement for Volcano. Nothing about the merger changes that fact, and the people that will continue to be in charge on the Cedar Fair side have been monitoring this situation for a long time. I know the new company is entitled "Six Flags," but Zimmerman is CEO and corporate is in Charlotte/Sandusky; sounds to me like many of the Cedar Fair initiatives, as well as their overall company culture, will mostly prevail.
If there was a B&M launched wing coaster planned to be installed at KD in 2025, wouldn't the manufacturing of such a ride already be well under-way/completed? Typically, pieces of a new coaster begin arriving at a park the summer before the ride opens, which would be summer 2024. I would think a ride of this magnitude would be almost completely manufactured at this point.
It's possible the theme of the new coaster could incorporate some new IP, but I think Jungle X as a whole will continue to be developed as planned, potentially with some minor alterations.
If there was a B&M launched wing coaster planned to be installed at KD in 2025, wouldn't the manufacturing of such a ride already be well under-way/completed? Typically, pieces of a new coaster begin arriving at a park the summer before the ride opens, which would be summer 2024. I would think a ride of this magnitude would be almost completely manufactured at this point.
It's possible the theme of the new coaster could incorporate some new IP, but I think Jungle X as a whole will continue to be developed as planned, potentially with some minor alterations.
Anyone looking into what's being stored up a the Claremont (sp?) Factory lot in Ohio? That should give some clues
These photos were taken 10/22:
Got some obvious Iron Menace track; and a good amount of un-primed and primed track there. I would assume this is mostly Iron Menace and Phoenix Rising, maybe some last-out of Penguin Trek. Therefore, I Highly doubt this ride would be in production at this point. I would guess June-August is when we start seeing the first pieces of the Wing at this factory, then delivery start a couple months after that. But certainly no track has been made yet.
Got some obvious Iron Menace track; and a good amount of un-primed and primed track there. I would assume this is mostly Iron Menace and Phoenix Rising, maybe some last-out of Penguin Trek. Therefore, I Highly doubt this ride would be in production at this point. I would guess June-August is when we start seeing the first pieces of the Wing at this factory, then delivery start a couple months after that. But certainly no track has been made yet.
Given the number of 24 projects that B&M is juggling right now I would have been shocked to see anything 25 related yet. I would think that we are probably looking at fairly similar track length and footprint to Iron Menace which only saw track recently arrive for a 24 opening it seems logical that KD's wouldn't need to be ready to ship for a good 9 or 10 months which is definitely plenty of time to do the work.
So under the timeline we're figuring out by what's in production/stored in Ohio vs. opening dates, would it be fair to say we should start seeing this project's track/supports in production around August or September 2024 to make a March or April 2025 opening?
I would actually guess a little earlier. I would think June July with shipping starting around September
It took me this long to realize Iron Menace’s orange is a darker shade of Talon’s orange. The color scheme on the blueprints makes more sense to me now.
Six Flags should feel right at home. Cedar Fair Orange (TM) fits perfectly with Six Flags' dark and gloomy ride trailers!
Well I'm significantly more interested in this project now. What are we thinking, bigger or smaller than Thunderbird? Does Cedar Flags give us yet another burnt orange roller coaster? Personally I hope it's dark blue or green color. I believe it's been mentioned before that Hanover is a bit more challenging to get a hold of site plans?
Almost everyone is harder to get plans from than the epic bros over at JCC. We should probably be able to get KD 2025 plans from Hanover when they drop though. Turnaround time just probably won't be as blazing fast as JCC.
Since KD builds much less frequently than, say, BGW, we don't really have an established timeline for when KD likes to submit plans for a project this size. Docs started showing up for Tumbili in February and March of 2020. I imagine by then should be a safe assumption for KD 2025.
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