Right, but is there any info beyond Zachary suggesting there was one airtime hill in the launch volley?
Project 2022: Pantheon
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Right, but is there any info beyond Zachary suggesting there was one airtime hill in the launch volley?
We were told 180 feet is the DROP HEIGHT. The spike is the tallest point of Pantheon (178 feet) so the actual height of the top hat is shorter than that, but the drop is taller thanks to the difference in grade.
@DC High Heat is interpreting the drawing with a large and smaller airtime hill (I assume).
Sorry @Zachary, I didn't see info on the drop height, so assumed marketing was rounding up. Isn't the grade difference about 30ft? So a 150 top hat plus the 30ft....
Question about the spike - if it's 178ft and the grade is about 70, won't it have to have an FAA light?
It's worth noting that Apollo's max height is 174, so this ride will have quite a presence driving in and being in Festa Italia and San Marco.
I added that green line. The initial dip after the switch track is very hard to see, but if you look at the bottom edge of the clearance envelope (and the top if I didn’t obscure it with the line) you can see some curve, not straight track before a hill. The depth is tricky to determine just because everything looks a bit flattened given the perspective. That’s what tells me it’ll indeed have the dip and hill on the launch.
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It would be neat if they included a statue and theming to each God at their location on the track.
If they do any theming it needs to br thorough and immersive, like alpengeist. I'm afraid they will just through a random statue here and there and it's gonna come off cheap. I don't want it to look like they went to the Pottery with their last $1000 of the budget and just got what they could. If they add theming it needs to be throughout. Maybe an old amphitheatre. A temple you zoom through. Not just a couple broken pots. Just my opinion.
Is there a structure proposed to go over the launch area? That could be your temple...
Would be cool to have water effects (jumping fountains maybe) for the Minerva section.
After reading some comments on /r/rollercoasters and then looking at webpage, and parts areas are confusing or wrong -
The area they highlight has a single launch, not 3. Regardless, the coaster has 4 launches but the website implies three. People are arguing which is accurate.
They highlighted the launch track. Fastest speed there is 67mph.
There's only 1 inversion in the highlighted area.
It's creative what they did tying the Gods in. And I'm probably nitpicking. But I think shortchanging the number of launches is the worst. If you're going to boast, do it right (and accurate).
The area they highlight has a single launch, not 3. Regardless, the coaster has 4 launches but the website implies three. People are arguing which is accurate.
They highlighted the launch track. Fastest speed there is 67mph.
There's only 1 inversion in the highlighted area.
It's creative what they did tying the Gods in. And I'm probably nitpicking. But I think shortchanging the number of launches is the worst. If you're going to boast, do it right (and accurate).
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Is it possible that the departure launch is slow enough that they don't really consider it a launch? Copperhead strike is so slow leaving the station that I have a hard time saying it's launched out of the station even though it technically is. Just a thought.
Not when, in their press release stats, they not only mentioned 4 launches but also specified the speed of each. That first launch is 36mph. I wouldn't consider that slow.
An early version of the new BGWFans Pantheon project tracker is now being linked to from the BGWFans homepage. More will be added in the next 24 hours, but I wanted to make sure people had something to send their friends to in the meantime.
Hopefully it's more comprehensive and accurate than what BGW has put together... ?
Hopefully it's more comprehensive and accurate than what BGW has put together... ?
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Yeah it’s wild to me how little they actually announced today. If it weren’t for the reports on this website or the previously announced Parc Asterix coaster we would still have no idea how the switch track/launch functions or that the airtime hill is actually banked outward which are pretty major components of this ride.
As someone who works in the communications field, I'm absolutely stunned at how badly this went today for a park that is so well known for its announcements. First off, there is no excuse for that live stream dying the way it did except that I believe it was simply from someone's phone which is another thing. With an attraction this big, why is BGW broadcasting this off of a phone? It takes nothing in today's world to set up a professional stream. Second, how on earth do you have signage that doesn't match the correct stats of the ride? The park has a sign shop on property and could've easily fixed that issue in a flash but decided not to? And third, this announcement just seemed so small and thrown together compared to ones in the past. Outside of a 37 second video we are just provided a press release and a vague diagram?
IMO they blew it. I can't wait for the ride but i worry about the park properly marketing the ride based off today.
IMO they blew it. I can't wait for the ride but i worry about the park properly marketing the ride based off today.
My credibility comes from journalistic rigor and a commitment to call it how I see it. Though I may not want to look a gift horse in the eye, I have to say this...
This announcement was rough. Even attending as media, I have a really low degree of confidence in the information I was told. Contradictions were everywhere and attraction knowledge seemed to be in short supply. ?
Frankly, if I wasn't at the event personally, I wouldn't trust any of the reporting out of it simply because there were so many ambiguities and contradictions that a reporter would have to navigate. Without the existing background I already had with this attraction, I don't think I would have been able to make heads or tails of a lot of the numbers being tossed around.
Hopefully we'll be able to clear up some of the ambiguity over the coming days through the means of follow-up questions to Marketing though.
This announcement was rough. Even attending as media, I have a really low degree of confidence in the information I was told. Contradictions were everywhere and attraction knowledge seemed to be in short supply. ?
Frankly, if I wasn't at the event personally, I wouldn't trust any of the reporting out of it simply because there were so many ambiguities and contradictions that a reporter would have to navigate. Without the existing background I already had with this attraction, I don't think I would have been able to make heads or tails of a lot of the numbers being tossed around.
Hopefully we'll be able to clear up some of the ambiguity over the coming days through the means of follow-up questions to Marketing though.
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First I'm told it was a camera hooked up to a computer and the internet connection just went out. Not much that can be done about that.
Second you are looking at it from a communications angle. From a marketing angle it's smart. It gives them more to keep announcing and talking about over the next 9 months which will help them stay at the top of people's minds and in the news every time the release more details.
If they had marketed some yet-to-be-unveiled secrets further down the line, maybe. That said, they showed us everything but just provided very little actual information. This leads folks to believe they know things that they actually don't—hence, failing on both the teasing and informing fronts.
I totally agree with the last two posts. I've working in advertising/marketing for mucho years (no age questions @belsaas ?) and this seemingly thrown together effort doesn't reflect well in their $20+ million investment. Laptop to an internet connection? For a multi million dollar project? With zero backup?
There should have been a POV. Hell, they could have called Intimidator 305, have him sign an NDA and had an almost perfect presentation in no time. Do it like Intamin did with their Parc Asterix presentation, with key stats on the screen (just make sure they match the signs and handouts).
There's so much more...
@BGWnut Sorry... That's total BS and almost sounds like the marketing department dictated it. I've worked in advertising/marketing since AM radio. It's one thing to say "keep them coming back for more" but, more importantly, it's to make sure EVERY message is 100% accurate. They didn't do that today. Three launches? Four launches? 178 ft tall? 180ft? Now they're in the position of "let me clarify" which is not the tact to be taking for a multi million dollar project they're banking on to increase traffic for years to come. Yes, there's something that could have been done - They could have been better prepared.
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There should have been a POV. Hell, they could have called Intimidator 305, have him sign an NDA and had an almost perfect presentation in no time. Do it like Intamin did with their Parc Asterix presentation, with key stats on the screen (just make sure they match the signs and handouts).
There's so much more...
@BGWnut Sorry... That's total BS and almost sounds like the marketing department dictated it. I've worked in advertising/marketing since AM radio. It's one thing to say "keep them coming back for more" but, more importantly, it's to make sure EVERY message is 100% accurate. They didn't do that today. Three launches? Four launches? 178 ft tall? 180ft? Now they're in the position of "let me clarify" which is not the tact to be taking for a multi million dollar project they're banking on to increase traffic for years to come. Yes, there's something that could have been done - They could have been better prepared.
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