Project 2022: Pantheon
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I know how good a boomerang is. It sucks. It would suck even more going 95 mph.
I've heard from my inside sources that we will be getting the world's first Coca-Cola® Giga inverted Freestyle® hybrid coaster-slide. It will be called Freestyle Freefall CocaCoaster: Featuring Dr. Pepper® . Riders will board the water rafts, which are suspended beneath the slide tube and be prompted by an onboard touch screen to pick their favorite flavor of soda just like a Coke Freestyle machine. Once selected, the slide will fill with the chosen beverage and guests will spiral down the worlds first 300 foot double helix drop and once at the bottom, the innovative rafts will flip guests into a standup position as they prepare to hurdle through the triple-non-inverting-falling-snake-hangtime-murder-raven-Stengel curve-dive and into the ride's patented Soda Splash™ finale.
The manufacturer is rumored to be Togo, so I'm sure we'll be in for a wild ride.
Admins can go ahead and close the thread now. Or move it to News instead of Rumors. Case closed; mystery solved.
The manufacturer is rumored to be Togo, so I'm sure we'll be in for a wild ride.
Admins can go ahead and close the thread now. Or move it to News instead of Rumors. Case closed; mystery solved.
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Ok so I've been trying to wrap my mind around what could have happened here with these plans.
So Theory #1: They ditched the giga part, the shuttle is a mis-understanding and it's more of Maverick like coaster. Verbolten on steroids.
WHY IT WON'T BE: That's a bold move to make that, and basically the park would be saying Verbolten was a screwup.
WHY IT COULD BE: They could be going bigger and better than Maverick, which would place it far ahead of Verbolten in terms of intensity that it could have the same differentiation as a Hyper and a Giga.
Theory #2: It's still a giga, the 'final drop' was mistaken for a 'first drop' and a 9 was mistaken for a 7. So the first drop ends up down there at 96 miles per hour, and multi-launch was confused for cable lift. The multi-launch and shuttle parts were to cover the tracks of leaking.
WHY IT WON'T BE: That's an awful lot to get wrong in this leak if things were misunderstood. There's also the thought of what does the rest of the layout look like.
WHY IT COULD BE: This really is the theory that makes the most sense. 300+ feet waiver applied for. RPA Buffer zone waiver approved. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, it's most likely a duck.
Theory #3: This is a Shuttle coaster. The final drop part is true. Somewhere along the line there is a switch track that allows for the part of a final drop. And it get's spot to spot through launches.
WHY IT WON'T BE: That's very very much more like a 'big boy Verbolten' than theory #1. And on the other hand a switch track if just more things that can go wrong for a park with a bunch of rides that has that.
WHY IT COULD BE: They really could be onto something novel. And not just a switch track to get it onto the main loop, but a switch track mid-ride like the new Harry Potter is rumored to have.
Personally I have to go with the theory number 2, and there just happens to either be a ton of misunderstandings or someone is covering their tracks with fake information.
So Theory #1: They ditched the giga part, the shuttle is a mis-understanding and it's more of Maverick like coaster. Verbolten on steroids.
WHY IT WON'T BE: That's a bold move to make that, and basically the park would be saying Verbolten was a screwup.
WHY IT COULD BE: They could be going bigger and better than Maverick, which would place it far ahead of Verbolten in terms of intensity that it could have the same differentiation as a Hyper and a Giga.
Theory #2: It's still a giga, the 'final drop' was mistaken for a 'first drop' and a 9 was mistaken for a 7. So the first drop ends up down there at 96 miles per hour, and multi-launch was confused for cable lift. The multi-launch and shuttle parts were to cover the tracks of leaking.
WHY IT WON'T BE: That's an awful lot to get wrong in this leak if things were misunderstood. There's also the thought of what does the rest of the layout look like.
WHY IT COULD BE: This really is the theory that makes the most sense. 300+ feet waiver applied for. RPA Buffer zone waiver approved. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, it's most likely a duck.
Theory #3: This is a Shuttle coaster. The final drop part is true. Somewhere along the line there is a switch track that allows for the part of a final drop. And it get's spot to spot through launches.
WHY IT WON'T BE: That's very very much more like a 'big boy Verbolten' than theory #1. And on the other hand a switch track if just more things that can go wrong for a park with a bunch of rides that has that.
WHY IT COULD BE: They really could be onto something novel. And not just a switch track to get it onto the main loop, but a switch track mid-ride like the new Harry Potter is rumored to have.
Personally I have to go with the theory number 2, and there just happens to either be a ton of misunderstandings or someone is covering their tracks with fake information.
I'll wager on Theory #3. As I said a few posts before, while not a true shuttle, a Soaring with Dragon on steroids is far enough away from being a Verbolten "a big boy". They already have experience with Intamin launchers in Florida and I'm sure any switch track bugs have been worked out.
Can we please stop it with these jokes? This is a serious discussion.
It uses state-of-the-art Freestyle Fluid Flush technology to ensure that you are only sitting in the freshest, most untainted Coca Cola product of your choosing every time you ride.
I can see this though I doubt the 315 ft portion is the spike but a top hat somewhere in the ride. Also don't count out S&S or Mack making this.
Personally I feel like the most possible choice is Mack. SeaWorld has worked with them some times before. I don't see why BGW can't get one. Plus, it would set a new record for Mack.
I'll go with door #2 please...
That's my basic thought, or really that I think the data is not confirmed* and thus must be taken with a grain of salt and actual data points viewed within a range of sorts. And for third-party-unconfirmed data, yes, it may even be 7 versus 9 wrong.
Even with Decide-the-Ride(TM)-with-lots-of-official-disclosure-InvadR, remember how many times the details about the hills, tunnels, and speeds changed? Ok, I don't recall whether it was a lot...
but I remember some of that stuff being subject to change, and we should expect it to be so, until everything is final.
*not confirmed meaning we don't still don't know whether there's anything to WildGravity's report, other than Zachary advises we shouldn't simply dismiss it yet...and though it's assumed the permit data gives us actual maximum heights, there's a "small" chance they won't use the full permitted value. (I put more weight on that data versus WildGravity at this point, so I'm less concerned about reconciling the two).
And I'm not a fan of shuttles, so I'll hope at least not #3, but I do agree w/ #3's premise of something novel. It's just a gut, but I don't think this is a "traditional" giga.
That's my basic thought, or really that I think the data is not confirmed* and thus must be taken with a grain of salt and actual data points viewed within a range of sorts. And for third-party-unconfirmed data, yes, it may even be 7 versus 9 wrong.
Even with Decide-the-Ride(TM)-with-lots-of-official-disclosure-InvadR, remember how many times the details about the hills, tunnels, and speeds changed? Ok, I don't recall whether it was a lot...
but I remember some of that stuff being subject to change, and we should expect it to be so, until everything is final.*not confirmed meaning we don't still don't know whether there's anything to WildGravity's report, other than Zachary advises we shouldn't simply dismiss it yet...and though it's assumed the permit data gives us actual maximum heights, there's a "small" chance they won't use the full permitted value. (I put more weight on that data versus WildGravity at this point, so I'm less concerned about reconciling the two).
And I'm not a fan of shuttles, so I'll hope at least not #3, but I do agree w/ #3's premise of something novel. It's just a gut, but I don't think this is a "traditional" giga.
Like I said before, no more one trick ponies. Long, fun, cornucopia of elements, use the speed and energy to its fullest.
I’d take something like this video too.
I’d take something like this video too.
Honestly I'd love to see something like Soaring with Dragon here. It's a novel experience where the gimmick of it actually pretty neat, realistic, and feasible for something like this; not to mention something you could have a lot of fun playing around with both theme wise and design wise. Also imo it'd be a completely different experience from Verbolten given that verbolten's more 'heavily themed family friendly launch' isn't all that analogous with 'thrill based shuttle launch"
Ok, so I'm back with a theory/idea what this could be.
I got a friend that's a park/coaster enthusiast, who is currently in Japan. Recently he rode/saw Kawasemi at Tobu Zoo, an Intamin Mega-lite. And we were talking about it, and developed some thoughts.
Kawasemi's turnout of the drop fits the profile of the leaked RPA plans. We both think that there's a good possibility that this project might be a super-sized mega-lite. I'm going to quote his message to me (FWIW He's been on all the rides about to be referenced):
I think this could be an interesting concept because the Mega-lite's tend to stay in a narrow area, meaning this Project Madrid could ride right on the top of the PRA line for the most part, and leave plenty of room for a hamlet to be built in the area 'inside' the coaster, but put the entrance close enough to current paths so if they never expand, it doesn't get the DF "too far" thing.
I got a friend that's a park/coaster enthusiast, who is currently in Japan. Recently he rode/saw Kawasemi at Tobu Zoo, an Intamin Mega-lite. And we were talking about it, and developed some thoughts.
Kawasemi's turnout of the drop fits the profile of the leaked RPA plans. We both think that there's a good possibility that this project might be a super-sized mega-lite. I'm going to quote his message to me (FWIW He's been on all the rides about to be referenced):
I think this could be an interesting concept because the Mega-lite's tend to stay in a narrow area, meaning this Project Madrid could ride right on the top of the PRA line for the most part, and leave plenty of room for a hamlet to be built in the area 'inside' the coaster, but put the entrance close enough to current paths so if they never expand, it doesn't get the DF "too far" thing.
That's fine if you think that multi-launch aspect of the "leak" is invalid. http://www.lifed.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/kawasemi-roller-coaster.jpg
He said it's a different experience.
But it's different enough from I-305 (more transitions) and Fury (floater air) that you wouldn't feel like it overlaps too much. If there could be any such thing as a 'perfect coaster', a scaled up and lengthened appropriately Mega-lite might be it.
At the park and since the train still isn't running, it got me thinking that there wasn't a good way to see Madrid progress.
What if the park needed to overhaul the train anyway and set up the accident for an excuse to keep people from looking at Madrid progress?
What if the park needed to overhaul the train anyway and set up the accident for an excuse to keep people from looking at Madrid progress?
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