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Another interesting thing isn't that the outline for the possible entertainment building behind RP? That seems to suggest that this isn't an old map but pertains to currentand plans. I not sure I fully agree with you on the fiesta field being a building. I see the same general outline that you do but it's so much lighter then the outline of the entertainment building that I have to wonder if we are not seeing something else that just looks to us like a stadium building. I have no idea what that could be but just throwing that out there as a possibility.
 

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I have been going to BGW since 1986, and have had a lot of "I can't wait to see what this is going to be" moments over the years.  For various reasons, the big sign next to Festhaus that turned out to be a teaser for Drachen Fire was probably the most surprising to stumble across.

Until now.  This is peak "I can't wait to see what this is going to be."
 
Very very very small grain of salt with that I'm about to say here:

There is unknown mega track (hyper/giga) at B&M's manufacturer, with labeling code suggesting USA location. As far as I'm aware of there is no planned projects in the US currently for that model. The track is currently unpainted and not even painted.

I don't want to say these two things are connected at all, but something interesting I wanted to share.
 
warfelg said:
Very very very small grain of salt with that I'm about to say here:

There is unknown mega track (hyper/giga) at B&M's manufacturer, with labeling code suggesting USA location. As far as I'm aware of there is no planned projects in the US currently for that model. The track is currently unpainted and not even painted.

I don't want to say these two things are connected at all, but something interesting I wanted to share.

The giga would be in 2020 not 2019 tho.
 
warfelg said:
Very very very small grain of salt with that I'm about to say here:

There is unknown mega track (hyper/giga) at B&M's manufacturer, with labeling code suggesting USA location.  As far as I'm aware of there is no planned projects in the US currently for that model.  The track is currently unpainted and not even painted.

I don't want to say these two things are connected at all, but something interesting I wanted to share.

I know nothing! But I am pretty sure they aren't connected.
 
Glissade said:
Why does the thumbnail map attached above have the Tournament Tables restaurant instead of Grograns Grill or O’Taters?  Makes me think that parts of this map are really old.

I am confused as to what you are looking at.
 
whanna said:
warfelg said:
Very very very small grain of salt with that I'm about to say here:

There is unknown mega track (hyper/giga) at B&M's manufacturer, with labeling code suggesting USA location.  As far as I'm aware of there is no planned projects in the US currently for that model.  The track is currently unpainted and not even painted.

I don't want to say these two things are connected at all, but something interesting I wanted to share.

I know nothing! But I am pretty sure they aren't connected.

I'm 99.999% that they have nothing to do with each other, but its something to keep an eye out for.
 
warfelg said:
I’ve seen things like this a few times in my days as a township planner. Most common reasons to see something like this:

-This Ireland proposal is something they have been sitting on for a long time, and it’s from a time when the master plan looked much different. Documents relating to the project they are dusting off had some of the plans on the same page as other projects.
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Most likely I’m gonna bet on the first bullitt point. It happened to be on a page that the new project was on and someone didn’t properly crop the page and this is an honest mistake.
^This.  That's my guess.  It's from an older master plan doc and someone sloppily included it.  Wish I could see what the master plan contains, even if only certain sections covering expansion/infill location opportunities versus any specific attractions... :|

My theory, which could relate to RPT (as a potential replacement): Wasn't the park once looking at better venues for outside commercial entertainment (rock concerts, etc.)?  I though I read that here but can't find it now.  In any event, that looks like the right size if you're going to expand capacity over RPT and right location if you want to be further from Kingsmill and direct increased sound towards the interstate/parking instead.   Festa Field may have been a possible location but the venue has since been deselected in favor of project Madrid, but someone inadvertently included a diagram depicting it, perhaps because the Ireland project is a rehash and already on an older document they wanted to reuse... i.e. oversight.
 
warfelg said:
...could possibly come from a time when Royal Palace Theater didn’t exist...
Out of curiosity, when would that be though?  Hasn't RPT existed since the beginning, though originally called Three Musketeers Theater? (Not that this diminishes the theory it's an error from an earlier plan...)
 
thopping said:
warfelg said:
...could possibly come from a time when Royal Palace Theater didn’t exist...
Out of curiosity, when would that be though?  Hasn't RPT existed since the beginning, though originally called Three Musketeers Theater?  (Not that this diminishes the theory it's an error from an earlier plan...)

Honest mistake. I thought it came later.
 
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And probably their's too... My guess is the park didn't realize that it was showing. It's a poor quality sketch in any event, and away from the area of interest, so we're probably analyzing it way more than JCC actually did... :)
 
madmax said:
Alan Schilke teased a 300+ foot RMC T-Rex today

That interview was interesting. An RMC Giga would be different enough from a B&M installation to keep Apollo’s Chariot special as their signature hyper, and give the T-Rex the designation of being the first of its kind. With smooth overbanked turns and a few inversions, it would be BG’s first inversion coaster since 2015 by 2020, and would visually draw the attention away from most anything that size almost purely on looks alone because of that track style and design potential. Capacity would be amended by having similar trains from Planet Coaster’s inclusion of the design RMC showed a couple years back.

If BG is feeling confident in RMC’s ability and taking heed of the successes they are seeing in everything from conversions to the smaller-scale acclaim of Wonder Woman-style Raptors, I am even more excitied for this as a possibility the park could be considering.
 
Anyone got a link to that interview?

Completely unrelated here, but WWGL has been running 3 trains, and despite only having a capacity of 8 per train, it is a capacity machine. They do a moving load/unload from what I heard so it's constantly moving, and it speeds up dispatch times.

I brought that up, because if they can do something similar with the T-Rex it could be a similar style small train low per train capacity but still be a capacity machine. Of course that would likely mean a big station (like HRRR), but if you can really get it moving like that you could have a great ride on your hands.
 
Bring Back Questor 87 said:
madmax said:
Alan Schilke teased a 300+ foot RMC T-Rex today

That interview was interesting. An RMC Giga would be different enough from a B&M installation to keep Apollo’s Chariot special as their signature hyper, and give the T-Rex the designation of being the first of its kind. With smooth overbanked turns and a few inversions, it would be BG’s first inversion coaster since 2015 by 2020, and would visually draw the attention away from most anything that size almost purely on looks alone because of that track style and design potential. Capacity would be amended by having similar trains from Planet Coaster’s inclusion of the design RMC showed a couple years back.

If BG is feeling confident in RMC’s ability and taking heed of the successes they are seeing in everything from conversions to the smaller-scale acclaim of Wonder Woman-style Raptors, I am even more excitied for this as a possibility the park could be considering.

No inversions. It would be a giga coaster.

warfelg said:
Anyone got a link to that interview?

Completely unrelated here, but WWGL has been running 3 trains, and despite only having a capacity of 8 per train, it is a capacity machine. They do a moving load/unload from what I heard so it's constantly moving, and it speeds up dispatch times.

I brought that up, because if they can do something similar with the T-Rex it could be a similar style small train low per train capacity but still be a capacity machine. Of course that would likely mean a big station (like HRRR), but if you can really get it moving like that you could have a great ride on your hands.

The Raptors aren’t capacity manchines lmfao. Where are you getting that from. A T-Rex giga would need 24-32 riders a train and 3 trains.
 
madmax said:
The Raptors aren’t capacity manchines lmfao. Where are you getting that from. A T-Rex giga would need 24-32 riders a train and 3 trains.

Screams ape was reporting 50-53 seconds from load in to load out with a 1 train operation.

That’s 24 riders a minute, over the course of an hour, no stops, 3 trains that’s a capacity of 1,440. I doubt they ever run it at that capacity, but it’s impressive to do that.
 
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