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RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

Wait, Intamin can make baby dinosaurs??

In all seriousness, if they didn't conceal their identity well, it's probably easy enough to see if they are a) even in a position where they could know, and if so, b) whether they've been disciplined/fired. Anything other than true/true likely means fake.
 
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Zachary said:
madmax said:
Does anyone have a link to the leaked “Intamin plan”?

I'm sure there are people who do, but it would be very irresponsible for anyone to share them on the ever so slight off-chance that they are real. Whoever took the pictures did the world's worst job of concealing their identity (another huge red flag that they're almost certainly fake, but I digress).

Really though, you people aren't missing anything, I swear. The most interesting thing visible was the Nintendo Switch that the "leaker"/faker used to cover over the supposedly important parts.

Food for thought: Someone walks up to you on the street carrying a briefcase. He tells you that there is a live baby dinosaur inside said briefcase. You ask if you can peak inside. You are denied. You ask if you can put your ear to the briefcase to hear if something is moving. You're again denied. This man now tells you that the sky is purple and that "supports piles have been built" in your backyard for a new roller coaster. You objectively know those two statements are wildly inaccurate. Do you believe this man has a baby dinosaur in his briefcase?


Considering how the same type of thing was proven real for I305 I would take the pictures into some sort of consideration and possibly the person trying to conceal is just a dumbass.
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

If my predicted timeline is to hold up, with this drilling done, FAA waiver, the JCC height waiver....that means in the next ohh I'll predict 8-12 weeks there should be more things about the project filed with JCC to start working on the site.
 
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Nicole said:
We aren't seriously going to re-adjudicate this again are we? I don't really like zombie movies.

Considering how these are the same people who thought I was crazy for saying that Really More Coming meant RMC Hurler, yeah.
 
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The documents were removed because of potential privacy issues as the leaks could easily get employees fired if they are real. The job security of employees is more important than a bunch of nerds on the internet. Priorities, people.
 
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Cthru3 said:
No link a few people have pictures but nothing is shown. Literally some pictures that have the Busch gardens logo the Intamin logo and some covered up blueprints.

They had the old BGW logo (the red one before the current Coaster Tree logo) at that, which makes me believe that either A.) they are fake and the faker doesn't know his BGW logo history or B.) this ride has been in the planning stages since around the time Verbolten debuted; which also doesn't totally make sense to me for the new project to be an Intamin. Intamin built Cheetah Hunt which you can easily say is Verbolten's sister coaster and BGW chose to do what it has done for the last two decades and gone out of their way to use any other manufacturer that wasn't Intamin to build Verbolten. Why go out of your way to do that, just to then immediately start planning an Intamin project.
 
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Pretzel Kaiser said:
The documents were removed because of potential privacy issues as the leaks could easily get employees fired if they are real. The job security of employees is more important than a bunch of nerds on the internet. Priorities, people.

I deleted them myself because I understood that people’s jobs could’ve been at risk.
 
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MadridBot said:
I deleted them myself because I understood that people’s jobs could’ve been at risk.

THIS. I don't want anyone to start grumbling about censorship. The images were not removed by the staff—the user realized livelihoods could potentially be at risk and responsibly removed them.
 
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Yes. Whoever deleted them is not as important as the reason they were deleted in this case. They should not be reposted by anybody.
 
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madmax said:
Nicole said:
We aren't seriously going to re-adjudicate this again are we?  I don't really like zombie movies.

Considering how these are the same people who thought I was crazy for saying that Really More Coming meant RMC Hurler, yeah.

Red herring.

Your assertion is factually incorrect.  The people objecting to posting that purported leak are NOT the same group of people who didn't believe your RMC theory.

Regardless, it is not a valid parallel.  This issue has been beaten to death over dozens of pages and no one had been willing to provide the Admins good evidence of the veracity of the source data.
 
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madmax said:
Considering how these are the same people who thought I was crazy for saying that Really More Coming meant RMC Hurler, yeah.

This is a perfect example of using lucky guesses and false equivalences to justify wild speculation and questionable sources.
 
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madmax said:
Nicole said:
We aren't seriously going to re-adjudicate this again are we?  I don't really like zombie movies.

Considering how these are the same people who thought I was crazy for saying that Really More Coming meant RMC Hurler, yeah.
Half of the instagram Coaster Community thought Really More Coming meant RMC Hurler and these are two very different situations. On one hand you have a very public teaser and on one hand you have a picture of a word on a blueprint that could so easily be fake.
 
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RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

My two cents (which are proverbially worthless but...), at that height, this is an Intamin. This park has a long standing tradition of going above and beyond. This isnt a chain lift, its an accelerator, closest one is Kingda ka 5 hours away. Next closest is Cedar Point (both parks which I have been to in the past month). They wowed us with Verbolten, Tempesto, and Invadr (Invadr is incredibly impressive for its height), no one can argue that. They would not put in a $25 million 300+ version of Apollos, thats stupid. The competition at that height is I305, arguably one of the best in the country and at that height, thats what they are going after if it is a coaster. Too tall for flyer. INTAMIN ACCELERATOR and hope and pray it is, Kingda ka rules....
 
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cmoresps said:
My two cents (which are proverbially worthless but...), at that height, this is an Intamin. This park has a long standing tradition of going above and beyond. This isnt a chain lift, its an accelerator, closest one is Kingda ka 5 hours away. Next closest is Cedar Point (both parks which I have been to in the past month). They wowed us with Verbolten, Tempesto, and Invadr (Invadr is incredibly impressive for its height), no one can argue that. They would not put in a $25 million 300+ version of Apollos, thats stupid. The competition at that height is I305, arguably one of the best in the country and at that height, thats what they are going after if it is a coaster. Too tall for flyer. INTAMIN ACCELERATOR and hope and pray it is, Kingda ka rules....

Ever heard of Fury 325? It’s nothing like Apollo.
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

cmoresps said:
My two cents (which are proverbially worthless but...), at that height, this is an Intamin. This park has a long standing tradition of going above and beyond. This isnt a chain lift, its an accelerator, closest one is Kingda ka 5 hours away. Next closest is Cedar Point (both parks which I have been to in the past month). They wowed us with Verbolten, Tempesto, and Invadr (Invadr is incredibly impressive for its height), no one can argue that. They would not put in a $25 million 300+ version of Apollos, thats stupid. The competition at that height is I305, arguably one of the best in the country and at that height, thats what they are going after if it is a coaster. Too tall for flyer. INTAMIN ACCELERATOR and hope and pray it is, Kingda ka rules....
Verbolten didn't wow riders. It failed to place in the Golden Ticket Awards while its Florida counterpart Cheetah Hunt made it on the list. Tempesto didn't wow riders, we joke about it being a flat. InvadR wowed riders. All of the GCI character on a smaller scale. Best return on investment they've had with a new ride, especially hitting Kings Dominion when they were down.

Hoping Xcelerator isn't deemed irreparable at this point, because that would pretty much rule out the spectacular hydraulic launch that set Xcelerator, Storm Runner, Top Thrill Dragster, and Kingda Ka above the rest. If the hydraulic launch isn't an option, Project Madrid will have to be either inversion or airtime focused to distinguish it from I305's focus on pure speed and positive/lateral G's.

Funny you mention Kingda Ka. BGW and Gadv are very comparable parks, but BGW crushes Gadv in every category except Kingda Ka, El Toro, the flat rides, the safari, and the Coke Freestyle machines.

madmax said:
Ever heard of Fury 325? It’s nothing like Apollo.
I fear a BGW B&M Giga would be more like Leviathan, which from what I've heard is inferior to its hyper predecessor Behemoth in every way except size. Could they even fit a Fury-like layout?
 
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