That is complete and total bullshit. It may even rise to fucking bullshit.
Sketchy BGW, Sketchy.
Sketchy BGW, Sketchy.
Project 2017: InvadR
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As someone who is a video professional and hires people all the time. Im pretty sure what happened here was the guy who was actually editing these videos didn't know who the video was for or in the chaos of the day simply put it in the wrong file and then the Daily Press sees the video, thinks its great and something BGW gave everyone and posted it.
I get being upset but I'm sure it was just an honest mistake.
I get being upset but I'm sure it was just an honest mistake.
It may be an honest mistake at the end of the day but that still doesn't stop me from questioning what happened as a blatant violation of trust and an incident of gross misconduct on the part of the park.
Got on Invadr today. After about an hour wait, I can say it was worth it. I'm pleasantly surprised with how great it is, even after seeing everyone's positive reviews on here. Such a blast.
I felt bad for a guy in front of us who was apparently too large for the lap bar to lock...apparently. He wasn't a very large guy at all, but more stocky than overweight. He had to get off and his SO rode by herself. After waiting that long only to be told he can't ride....and I swear he wasn't anyone I would look at and think of as being too large to ride. Anyone know the specifics of how large is too large to ride? Is the limit significantly less than other rides like Griffon, Apollos, etc?
I felt bad for a guy in front of us who was apparently too large for the lap bar to lock...apparently. He wasn't a very large guy at all, but more stocky than overweight. He had to get off and his SO rode by herself. After waiting that long only to be told he can't ride....and I swear he wasn't anyone I would look at and think of as being too large to ride. Anyone know the specifics of how large is too large to ride? Is the limit significantly less than other rides like Griffon, Apollos, etc?
The Hessian said:
Misconduct? No.
Incompetence? Yes.
I will say that whoever is responsible for this screw up should be ashamed of themselves because BGW's marketing and publicity department usually runs a tight ship so this is odd that they had this happen. They need to remedy this error STAT.
Well, I got to Busch early today and was very excited to see what InvadR would offer after watching multiple POV's and reading reviews on a few websites. I will stress that this is an EARLY review, based on a single ride, and I plan to get back to Busch again this week to ride another few times.
THE GOOD
- The location is great, along with the way it moves around terrain, the train, and the log flume. Very well done. Should look even better as the environment catches up. Also looking forward to a ride on the flume and the train soon.
- The theming is very well done, and in my opinion fits perfectly for a wooden coaster. I was worried they would do too much, but I think it fits the name, area, theme, and wooden style very well.
- The park had the coaster running by 9:45am today, if not earlier, even with a listed opening time of 10:00am. We were on InvadR (in the front row) and Alpengeist (also front row) by 10:15am.
THE OKAY
- I do think this is a great addition to the park, especially for families, given the height restriction and level of "intensity".
- I think the queue (front seat line) needs to be addressed ASAP. It honestly got a little scary on the stairs. The ride operator was letting us know he "was not supposed to allow requests for rows" but was doing so anyway. I am not sure if this was because it was so early in the day.
- The ride (drop and helix). Pretty self explanatory, but the drop was good, and I am looking forward to riding again in the rear of the train.
THE NOT SO GOOD
- The ride (other than the drop and helix). This is a hard one to explain. I think if I would have just seen the POV on-line and then rode before reading thoughts / reviews on-line it would be right where I expected. However, seeing reviews calling it the "best wooden coaster in the State" and talking about "air-time amounts", I think I set the bar too high. It left me wanting more. Now, I know that I have only been on it once, and I want to try riding in other seat locations (especially the back), but I just felt it was lacking something. And I am not talking about an El Toro something, even just some Phoenix "phun" would have been nice.
OVERALL
- I wouldn't say anything was BAD. Again, I think this is a great addition to what Busch Gardens is (which looked beautiful today, by the way).
- This is a fun coaster, and a must ride on most future visits (I would say). However, a 2-hour wait for this right now, I am not sure I would say that is a good idea.
- I would put it 3rd in the State of Virginia, behind Rebel Yell and Grizzly.
- It left me even more excited about what "The Park Up North" is planning for 2018. But that is the coaster enthusiast within, not the father or casual coaster fan.
THE GOOD
- The location is great, along with the way it moves around terrain, the train, and the log flume. Very well done. Should look even better as the environment catches up. Also looking forward to a ride on the flume and the train soon.
- The theming is very well done, and in my opinion fits perfectly for a wooden coaster. I was worried they would do too much, but I think it fits the name, area, theme, and wooden style very well.
- The park had the coaster running by 9:45am today, if not earlier, even with a listed opening time of 10:00am. We were on InvadR (in the front row) and Alpengeist (also front row) by 10:15am.
THE OKAY
- I do think this is a great addition to the park, especially for families, given the height restriction and level of "intensity".
- I think the queue (front seat line) needs to be addressed ASAP. It honestly got a little scary on the stairs. The ride operator was letting us know he "was not supposed to allow requests for rows" but was doing so anyway. I am not sure if this was because it was so early in the day.
- The ride (drop and helix). Pretty self explanatory, but the drop was good, and I am looking forward to riding again in the rear of the train.
THE NOT SO GOOD
- The ride (other than the drop and helix). This is a hard one to explain. I think if I would have just seen the POV on-line and then rode before reading thoughts / reviews on-line it would be right where I expected. However, seeing reviews calling it the "best wooden coaster in the State" and talking about "air-time amounts", I think I set the bar too high. It left me wanting more. Now, I know that I have only been on it once, and I want to try riding in other seat locations (especially the back), but I just felt it was lacking something. And I am not talking about an El Toro something, even just some Phoenix "phun" would have been nice.
OVERALL
- I wouldn't say anything was BAD. Again, I think this is a great addition to what Busch Gardens is (which looked beautiful today, by the way).
- This is a fun coaster, and a must ride on most future visits (I would say). However, a 2-hour wait for this right now, I am not sure I would say that is a good idea.
- I would put it 3rd in the State of Virginia, behind Rebel Yell and Grizzly.
- It left me even more excited about what "The Park Up North" is planning for 2018. But that is the coaster enthusiast within, not the father or casual coaster fan.
James said:
I never said it was intentional. I agree with Unagi: it was a result of incompetence.
I am less willing to shrug my shoulders about this, because we asked about the video immediately after it was shot. We had multiple conversations with marketing about it throughout the morning. We described the video concept in detail to the individual in charge of the POVs, as well. Because we were the only media outlet to request an empty train and to sit in the back, our POV should have been easy to identify.
Ultimately, it was not missing, rather they had given it to someone else. Additionally, unless the Daily Press didn't request a POV ride, they have no excuse for posting ours.
Rhaw757 said:
There is test seat out front. I believe the seat probably hits people differently than most of the other coasters in the park.
Rhaw757 said:
I am suprised by the guy not fitting as I am on the heavy side and heared it pass three lock points before getting tight on me. Was he tall I could see leg length possibly being an issue.
Luke said:
Another from Kerry Mozzetta, "Burying Or Dead" "Trible Ceremony" "The Fall of Rome"
Also "Like a Dream" (original mix) by Met Shell.
Thanks Thomas and Kyle.
Rhaw757 said:
As someone who has had to do the, "coaster walk of shame," more times then I care to remember I can sympathize with this guy.
Most rides, especially at BGW have a test seat. It will let you know before you get on the ride if you will fit. In the case of Invadr it is across from the bathrooms. A light turns on if you fit.
Unfortunately, it seems many people think these test seats are photo ops, a place for kids to play, or simply a chair. I can not count the number of times I have gone to use a test seat only to have to ask someone to vacate. It is especially hard with parents are there and do not do anything about their kids.
horsesboy said:
He was on the taller side, I'd say, but not a giant by any means. Probably about 6'5" at the most but I'd say closer to 6'3". It was even more odd when the following train came in and a guy even heavier (but definitely not as tall) got off that train. Also, Clint Novak from In The Loop was able to ride and he's a big guy, so my mom and I were kind of confused about it.
Zimmy said:
Oh yeah, I remember as a kid, I would always hop in those test seats and pretend I was riding not knowing what they were really for. That being said, they definitely do make a great photo op for the kids!
As a side note, I'll never forget that time last year after a bit of rain earlier in the day, my little brother hopped right into the test seat for Mach Tower without looking and thus not realizing that the seat was holding about a half gallon of water. That was a good laugh for us all and some bystanders who also witnessed the incident.
InvadR's test seat seems to be regularly used as a couch. Very helpful for people who intend to actually use it for its purpose.
Every time we pass the InvadR test seat people are just lounging around on it.
That's actually true for all theme park test seats.
I've always found it really rude. It it probably awkward enough to use it to begin with, without having to ask people to stop playing on it.
Nicole said:
Yes, yes it is. In most cases the damn things are out for all to see (I'm looking at you Alpie). At least this one is kind of less obvious. I really wish they would make some effort to provide so privacy.
The first time I tried to ride Dominator at KD was horrible. First off it is a B&M and so it already is not terribly forgiving to larger folks. But, like most places the test seat is out proud for everyone to see. ANYWAY! SO I had to sit there while mom took photos of all her kids climbing all over the damn thing. Once she was done they did not vacate. I quietly asked her if should would mind my using it for a moment. She was shocked, shocked and perhaps aghast. She wanted to know why a full grown man would want to play in a kids toy. (ugh) I quickly explained to her that it was actually for people to test fit. TO her credit she did remove her kids and mumbled something to me. Sadly that is not the worst of it. I did actually fit, barely. When I looked and saw that I was good, some guy said, "CONGRATS BUDDY, YOUR NOT TO BIG!" I am sure he meant well, but it was just plain horrifying.
Did the early Invadr plans have to be revamped when the decision was made to keep Le Scoot? Or were they not that far along yet in the planning? I'm curious what the original plan may have been.