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I grew up with Peanuts, both the comics and the specials on TV. Since they are getting a theatrically released movie late this year, I don't see them falling into irrelevancy anytime soon.

As for Planet Snoopy, this is one of the best themed areas in the park altogether. Not to mention the new rides here are 1,000 times better than the old Hanna-Barbera/Kidzville rides which looked rather run down.
 
I was talking about the old flat rides, not those two. Technically, Yogi's Cave lost it's wonderful, fantastical charm when Kidzville took over and I remember going in there at it's final year (before Snoopy's Junction took it's place) and it really wasn't in the best shape.
 
I have never liked Peanuts. I find it to be the same 4 jokes over and over. Perhaps it was better for the Yuppie generation then mine.
Regardless while the new flats are better than the old, I prefer Hanna-Barbara
 
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So walking through Planet Snoopy, I've noticed they're playing a questionable selection of songs. One was Time Warp from RHPS and the second one was some song about eating rotten eggs and dying.
 
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So walking through Planet Snoopy, I've noticed they're playing a questionable selection of songs.  One was Time Warp from RHPS and the second one was some song about eating rotten eggs and dying.

Found a Peanut is a classic Boy Scout song. And an important lesson on eating rotten peanuts. That song goes places that they may cut in the Planet Snoopy version though.
 
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When KD finally merges with Six Flags completely what will Planet Snoopy turn into? I heard something about KD taking Six Flags characters and booting the Peanuts.
 
When KD finally merges with Six Flags completely what will Planet Snoopy turn into? I heard something about KD taking Six Flags characters and booting the Peanuts.
In my opinion, they'll probably keep both for the time being. Can't imagine they would want to spend a ridiculous amount of money at either chains parks to retheme all the kiddie areas. If they do change over, I really doubt it would be CF parks who change. CF has recently been doing a lot of work to the Peanuts areas at a bunch of their parks (Knotts and KI this year, CW in 2022, Michigans adventure in 2021, etc), and it would be weird to turn around and do more work to change it all over to Looney Tunes theming very shortly after.

Plus, who knows when their contracts end. Doubt they would change anything until one of the contracts ends anyway.
 
Additionally, Fiesta Texas is working on doing rethemes for their kiddie area and had a large investment in the waterpark for I think it was 7 new kids slides. So I’d say the “both” option is most likely for the time being.
 
If the Peanuts contract ends next year, why is Knotts and KI doing major Peanut themed refurbishments/additions to their respective Peanuts areas for 2024?

And, in general, why does the Cedar Fair / Six Flags merger dialog imply that all CF parks are going to be mirror images of a Six Flag park? Given that a good chunk of the current CF brass will have controI of the day to day operations of all parks in the merged chain, I would think there will be more operational changes to existing SF parks than legacy CF parks after the merger is complete.

Intellectual Property: Six Flags parks have DC Comics/Loonie Tunes; Cedar Fair parks have the Peanuts. The Peanuts cater to a younger demographic of 3 to 7 year olds. Loonie Tunes appeal to slightly older children 8-12 year olds. (Course, there will be overlap between these two age groups and their respective IP). DC Comic figures can appeal to all age groups. I am not sure if there will any potential changes to park IP in the next few years. I would think the merged park chain would want couple years of merged operations before thinking of any IP changes.

Rides/Attractions: I don't think there will be any major changes for what is planned for 2024 and 2025. I see 2026 as the earliest for attractions planned as a merged company.

Entertainment: For me this is a black hole. It seems CF does well with special events like Carnivale and Winterfest; I assume both chains are similar with Halloween events. I have no clue as to summer entertainment between SF & CF.

Food: From what I have heard, I feel CF is heads above SF in this category.

Merch/Games: ???
 
I’ve always felt like Looney Tunes was sort of a weak IP for Six Flags. I have nothing against Looney Tunes, but to me it feels more dated and less relevant to the parks’ younger audience than IP like Peanuts or Sesame Street.

I’d argue that most kids are well acquainted with the Peanuts, largely thanks to the enduring popularity of the holiday specials (Great Pumpkin, A Charlie Brown Christmas) which expose new generations to the characters every year. And Snoopy just has that sort of Hallmark chic that keeps the character well-ingrained in our culture consciousness.

By contrast, Looney Tunes doesn’t seem to have anything similar to give it that same kind of staying power. The strongest asset I can think of is Space Jam, but even that feels like a stretch. Don’t get me wrong, Looney Tunes is a great classic cartoon with some really clever writing and animation — but it seems to me that the folks who really know and love those characters are baby boomers, Gen Xers, and maybe older millennials. Maybe the strategy at one point was to attract parents with an IP they grew up with, but I’d argue that many of today’s parents of young children grew up after the height Looney Tunes’ popularity.

And, I don’t know, I think Peanuts feels like it has a bit more universal appeal to everyone. Maybe it’s because of that Hallmark chic that‘s made the Peanuts just such a familiar aesthetic. Maybe it’s the more comfortable and mellow tone of the IP. Maybe it’s the fact that the IP originated as a newspaper comic strip for adults. But the Looney Tunes, by contrast, just feel a bit gaudier, cheaper, more child-oriented. But as far as the children’s IP of a park goes, I feel that Peanuts makes the park feel a bit “nicer” and makes kids’ areas feel less focused on just small children.

Or maybe it’s just a pure matter of opinion.
 
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I have a feeling they’re going to use the contracts for leverage— see who gives them the better deal. Kids flat rides are really simple to theme as Peanuts or Looney Tunes, so whoever comes out on top becomes the new combined company kids area theme.

The deal with Warner seems to cover both Looney Tunes and DC, and also seems interchangeable, with parks untheming something LT and theming something else DC, and that seems to even work between parks— like they just pay for a number of licenses and they can use them for either in any park. Maybe they end up keeping Peanuts for the kids area in all parks eventually, and use the Warner licenses currently used for Looney Tunes to add some DC stuff to the CF parks. There’s still a few things that got unthemed and branded in the Paramount parks that could easily get DC overlays.
 
I’ve always felt like Looney Tunes was sort of a weak IP for Six Flags. I have nothing against Looney Tunes, but to me it feels more dated and less relevant to the parks’ younger audience than IP like Peanuts or Sesame Street.

I’d argue that most kids are well acquainted with the Peanuts, largely thanks to the enduring popularity of the holiday specials (Great Pumpkin, A Charlie Brown Christmas) which expose new generations to the characters every year. And Snoopy just has that sort of Hallmark chic that keeps the character well-ingrained in our culture consciousness.

By contrast, Looney Tunes doesn’t seem to have anything similar to give it that same kind of staying power. The strongest asset I can think of is Space Jam, but even that feels like a stretch. Don’t get me wrong, Looney Tunes is a great classic cartoon with some really clever writing and animation — but it seems to me that the folks who really know and love those characters are baby boomers, Gen Xers, and maybe older millennials. Maybe the strategy at one point was to attract parents with an IP they grew up with, but I’d argue that many of today’s parents of young children grew up after the height Looney Tunes’ popularity.

And, I don’t know, I think Peanuts feels like it has a bit more universal appeal to everyone. Maybe it’s because of that Hallmark chic that‘s made the Peanuts just such a familiar aesthetic. Maybe it’s the more comfortable and mellow tone of the IP. Maybe it’s the fact that the IP originated as a newspaper comic strip for adults. But the Looney Tunes, by contrast, just feel a bit gaudier, cheaper, more child-oriented. But as far as the children’s IP of a park goes, I feel that Peanuts makes the park feel a bit “nicer” and makes kids’ areas feel less focused on just small children.

Or maybe it’s just a pure matter of opinion.
Ironically, most Loonie Tunes cartoons were created in the 1940's and their viewer audience was aimed at adults because of their mature content.

Their intended audience was not aimed at children. Like the movie "Who Shot Roger Rabbit"", they could have duel audiences of adults and children. Where adults could pick up on the adult themes while the kids would love the slap-stick comedy in them.

But, by today's standards, a good chunk of the Loonie Tunes content would be considered offensive. Not politically correct. Even when I was a child in the late 1960's and early 1970's, some content had already been edited out. What Loonie Tunes cartoons, that are available to watch today, are very heavily edited; a shadow of what they were when they were released in the 1940's.
 
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MeTV plays the old Looney Tunes as part of their Toon in with Me shows on Saturday mornings, and I grew up watching them as a kid, but watching now as an adult you really see how many had racist stereotypes and other questionable content— it’s really cringe to watch and then think as kids it was just normal to watch them. And they don’t show the really racist (blackface, etc.) ones, but even some of the less inappropriate cartoons have really problematic scenes.

I am a huge Looney Tunes fan, but maybe it’s time they were retired from the kids areas.
 
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From my understanding, under the new merger, they plan to keep Peanuts at all pre-merger CF parks and Looney Tunes at pre-merger SF parks. I don’t see them putting Peanuts and Looney Tunes in the same park anytime soon. Now, will the people in charge of the IP contracts agree with that? That’s another discussion.
 
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