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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

Every show I have gone to since opening day, the theater has been packed full.

Also, after talking and researching, I have come to the conclusion that yes the puppet scene is not for adults it is for kids. When children watch puppets done is a similar style, they don't pay attention to the puppeteers but rather they focus on the puppets themselves and don't really notice the puppeteers. I'm not talking 10 year olds, I'm talking about younger than that. This was passed along to me by someone who specializes in puppetry and I believe they said there was a study done to prove it. So really, after hearing that, I can see why they choose to perform the puppets the way they are done.

As far as the kissing goes. I really feel like that is a specific nit-pick because there is nothing really else to complain about. I understand different people have different morals; however, kissing has never been an issue before in any previous show. I also find it quite hard to believe it is an issue considering how there are other things of a more inappropriate manner on stage. I'm really surprised no one has mentioned the cleavage in the final number yet. One of the women is wearing a sequin union jack bra-like costume piece under a small tight looking jacket and the cleavage is there.

Also, I do find it absurd that it has now become the thing to just complain about adult references in shows. Honestly, so long as it isn't something blatantly obvious that kids would pick up on, it should be fine to include. That is a good family show, it entertains the whole family including the parents. One last thing to note, I have yet to see the record used in the show that Zachary mentioned earlier.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

Party Rocker said:
however, kissing has never been an issue before in any previous show.
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Uhm, what other show in the park have you seen with a makeout session? It has never been an issue before because none of the park's shows had kissing like that before.

I also find it quite hard to believe it is an issue considering how there are other things of a more inappropriate manner on stage.
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The only thing "of a more inappropriate manner on stage" that I can think of is Fiends, which is strongly advised as a heavily adult show. Also, it's worth noting that parents complained like crazy about that show. This is advertised as a family show. That's what I find so crazy. Why does the same show that caters to two-year-olds (going by what you said about the puppets being meant for little children) have adult make out sessions, naked people, and overexposed cleavage?

I'm really surprised no one has mentioned the cleavage in the final number yet. One of the women is wearing a sequin union jack bra-like costume piece under a small tight looking jacket and the cleavage is there.
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Is this supposed to help your argument? All it tells me is that there's even more adult stuff in this "family" show.

Also, I do find it absurd that it has now become the thing to just complain about adult references in shows. Honestly, so long as it isn't something blatantly obvious that kids would pick up on, it should be fine to include. That is a good family show, it entertains the whole family including the parents.
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PR, I think the issue is that the adult references in this show are anything but subtle. Unless the kid is blind, he is going to see overexposed cleavage, pictures of naked people, and people making out. When I was five, I "got" kissing and all that and seeing it made me uncomfortable. Since it's clear that that this is supposed to be a family show, this seems so unnecessary, and if I were a parent of a small child I would be embarrassed for taking him to see something like that. Dare I say it, but even Entwined's adult jokes are more "subtle." There's just nothing "family" about stuff like that.

Frankly, I don't understand the purpose of these adult jokes. What does it gain for the show other than a chuckle? Does anybody really want to watch it again to hear the adult jokes? Maybe they're there just because Scott enjoys printing out pictures of naked people. Whatever the reason, it does not seem necessary. I don't see the show gaining anything by adding these sex references; in fact I see it losing a large portion of its audience (parents with small children) because of something that isn't really needed, but at lessens the experience.

In my opinion, a good family, err, "family" show shouldn't be comprised of different individual bits that cater to one audience, then another. It should be a show that, as a whole, can be enjoyed by the whole family because a certain age isn't required to "get" it. Take the Secrets of Castle O'Sullivan, for example. They didn't have the animatronic leprechaun there to make the kids think they're watching Sesame Street, they didn't have the girl Aaron there so she could rip her shirt off to make the adults feel like they're at a stripper club. It was a good, solid, fun show that the whole family could enjoy together. Even Mix It Up does that. On the other hand, shows like Fiends disobeyed this rule but were not supposed to be for children, so there is not a strong contradiction in audiences for the shows.

Sometimes I just walk away shaking my head saying "Scott, Scott, Scott..." This is one of those times.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

Joe, kissing is everywhere. It happens all the time in the park, in schools, even at homes. You aren't seeing any inappropriate body parts. Furthermore, the only long kissing part is at the end of the wedding scene which the go out so you really don't see them too much anyways. It should not be an issue.

Like I've pointed out before, the supposed record with naked people on it hasn't been used. I have yet to see it at all at any of the 10 shows I have been to. If it just happens to be used in one show, I'd hardly call that an issue. Also, no child is going to try to focus on something so small and distorted. If anything, they will probably be paying attention to the bright colors of the video mapping on the set.

Ever seen Monster Stomp? It has girls in bikinis just about dancing around. However, that was claimed to be a family show that everyone loved. What about Deck the Halls? Yes, girls in short green outfits. I guess that is more of the double standard. It's okay because its Christmas.

Kids do not think about little details. Even if those details are obvious to adults, they don't focus in on them. Why? Because that is how a child's mind works. They do not really focus on one thing, their mind jumps from thing to another quickly. They will more than likely not notice the cleavage or the album, especially since the album isn't really used. The only thing they might notice is kissing, and I am fairly certain most children see their parents do it and they don't care.

The purpose of these subtle jokes is simply just to give adults a small joke and thats it. It's not meant to take over the show and they definitely do not stand out. They only get noticed by adults or teens, most of which do not care.

Let me just remind everyone this is all over 1 Facebook complaint. Only 1. I can understand it being a problem if there were many complaints about the same thing, but this is just 1. Not 10, not 100, just 1. Nobody even mentioned the kissing until this complaint was found.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

How about you all stop analyzing and complaining about the show and just enjoy it as is? It's a new piece of theatre. Get used to it because this is the direction theatre is moving in. If you don't like it, then go out and make your own theatre that you enjoy watching. Get off your asses and DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE GREATER GOOD!
It's a SHOW. It's an escape from reality. Enjoy the music and let it move you. I, personally, think that Busch Gardens is lucky to have a show like this in the park. This is Broadway quality and it should be in NEw York City on Broadway. Thank your luck stars BGWFans because God has blessed you!
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

I saw it today and the curtains no longer open on the first band (I'm too young to know who they're supposed to be). The band members come out from behind the curtain one by one. I liked it much more with the opening curtain. It was more exiting and dramatic.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

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How about you all stop analyzing and complaining about the show and just enjoy it as is?  It's a new piece of theatre.  Get used to it because this is the direction theatre is moving in.  If you don't like it, then go out and make your own theatre that you enjoy watching.  Get off your asses and DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE GREATER GOOD!  
It's a SHOW.  It's an escape from reality.  Enjoy the music and let it move you.  I, personally, think that Busch Gardens is lucky to have a show like this in the park.  This is Broadway quality and it should be in NEw York City on Broadway.  Thank your luck stars BGWFans because God has blessed you!
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Exactly, we should ignore the parts we don't like and just have fun.
 
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ModWindy said:
How about you all stop analyzing and complaining about the show and just enjoy it as is?  It's a new piece of theatre.  Get used to it because this is the direction theatre is moving in.  If you don't like it, then go out and make your own theatre that you enjoy watching.  Get off your asses and DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE GREATER GOOD!  
It's a SHOW.  It's an escape from reality.  Enjoy the music and let it move you.  I, personally, think that Busch Gardens is lucky to have a show like this in the park.  This is Broadway quality and it should be in NEw York City on Broadway.  Thank your luck stars BGWFans because God has blessed you!
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Wanna know how I know you have never seen a show on Broadway?

This is nothing like Broadway. It is more like the "Epic Teen Movie" spoof of Broadway.
 
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RE: London Rocks! (2014 to Present)

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Joe, kissing is everywhere. It happens all the time in the park, in schools, even at homes. You aren't seeing any inappropriate body parts.
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And I call those who have no shame in kissing whenever wherever little wh***s. That is what they are, have some decency. Keep your bedroom business in the bedroom.
 
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I do have to say, you are all pure entertainment in this forum. It's sad that you can't appreciate something many people have put a lot of hard work into over many years. I guess you prefer sitting at home on your computers and devices slamming other people's work. It's so easy, right? Hiding in this forum. If you're true fans, you would go and seek knowledge on London Rocks and see what it has taken to put the show together. The info is all on YouTube. But, of course, you all know that being BGWFans.
 
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ModWindy said:
 If you're true fans, you would go and seek knowledge on London Rocks and see what it has taken to put the show together.  
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A lot of effort was put into building Auschwitz, didn't make it a wonderful place to visit.
 
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ModWindy said:
I do have to say, you are all pure entertainment in this forum.  It's sad that you can't appreciate something many people have put a lot of hard work into over many years.  I guess you prefer sitting at home on your computers and devices slamming other people's work.  It's so easy, right?  Hiding in this forum.  If you're true fans, you would go and seek knowledge on London Rocks and see what it has taken to put the show together.  The info is all on YouTube.  But, of course, you all know that being BGWFans.
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We're aware of how much work was put into the show, that's why it's sad what a disappointment it is.

Pretzel Kaiser said:
It's weird, This is Oktoberfest doesn't have a an insane budget, years of planning, or flashy technical aspects, but I still enjoy that more than London Rocks.  What's wrong with me?
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You clearly don't know how to have fun.
 
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ModWindy said:
How about you all stop analyzing and complaining about the show and just enjoy it as is?  It's a new piece of theatre.  Get used to it because this is the direction theatre is moving in.  If you don't like it, then go out and make your own theatre that you enjoy watching.  Get off your asses and DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE GREATER GOOD!  

It's a SHOW.  It's an escape from reality.  Enjoy the music and let it move you.  I, personally, think that Busch Gardens is lucky to have a show like this in the park.  This is Broadway quality and it should be in NEw York City on Broadway.  Thank your luck stars BGWFans because God has blessed you!
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Ok, in all seriousness, it's clear you're very close to the show- more than likely cast or crew. People aren't happy with the show itself, not its performers and crew. In fact, everyone I've spoken to says that London Rocks has two of the greatest casts to ever appear at Busch Gardens. I'm inclined to agree. From a technical standpoint, everyone agrees that London Rocks is quite the fantastic spectacle as well. Everyone's dissatisfaction comes from the show itself- something that you likely had absolutely no control over. Take the complements and ignore the rest if you don't agree.
 
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ModWindy said:
I do have to say, you are all pure entertainment in this forum.  It's sad that you can't appreciate something many people have put a lot of hard work into over many years.
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Quite a few things have had hard work put into them over many a years but have been failures. Windows 8, John Carter, New Coke, smokeless cigs, and so much more. A lot of time and work does not create success, a proper product creates success.

ModWindy said:
 I guess you prefer sitting at home on your computers and devices slamming other people's work.  It's so easy, right?  Hiding in this forum.
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Actually, I prefer popping here when the time is right to discuss something. I prefer spending a good amount of time going to theaters and experiencing actual productions, traveling to see actual sites, and just enjoying the true quality things that life has to offer. Internet holds a very very small portion of that. I feel if many here got out and did many more true offerings in life that they would never return to certain parks and scale back visits and spending on many others. The cost of seeing a few productions that are actual quality in DC is well worth the cost over admission to a park and seeing one that could not compare in even a dream world. Heading to NYC and seeing Once or Matilda is a much better bang for a buck and moving experience than anything theme park current offers save for MAYBE UNIversal and their current level of immersion. I suggest to you to actually venture out into the real world and experience true offerings in life both on stage and naturally made around the Earth, it is much more gratifying.

A sunset on a Disney cruise ship while ported in the Crystal Blue waters in the Bahamas or Carribbean followed up by outstanding shows like Believe or Villian's Tonight is such an amazing experience. Perfect for seeing new places that have breathtaking natural beauty with true BROADWAY level stage offerings in the same place, you just cannot beat it. A trip to Bora Bora watching the sunset beside Mount Pahia. If you are looking for someone who takes their pleasure in life from posting only on a forum then please, I will save you the trouble and tell you to look at someone else.


ModWindy said:
 If you're true fans, you would go and seek knowledge on London Rocks and see what it has taken to put the show together.  The info is all on YouTube.  But, of course, you all know that being BGWFans.
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Once again, putting a lot of work into a product does not mean it is good. Jack the Giant Slayer, Sahara, The Lone Ranger (which I enjoyed, for the record, but is seen as an utter financial failure), Bobbie Boland, The Blonde in the Thunderbird, and so much more had countless dollars and time poured into them and were still just.... bad.
 
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