Attraction Jersey Devil Coaster
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Fun fact: Kingda Ka hit 1 million riders in a season for the only time in its life after they went down to the 1 station, 3 train ops set up.
The only reason its capacity has gone down since reducing stations was because of Zumanjaro, which is the state's fault not Great Adventure.
Yeah but it kinda is GA's fault to have it installed in a way that impacts the other ride's operations - a little due diligence in legal research would have helped though my guess is they figured it was ok since it likely saved some money on operating expenses.
All I'm saying is that maybe they actually planned appropriately and it'll be fine, but it's also conceivable they stop using the new moving platform features after a few seasons if they see a cost savings associated with the move.
All I'm saying is that maybe they actually planned appropriately and it'll be fine, but it's also conceivable they stop using the new moving platform features after a few seasons if they see a cost savings associated with the move.
They didn't find out it was going to be a problem until they tried bringing the State in to inspect Zumanjaro for certification. Basis was other rides had similar operating environments so it should not have been a problem, and NJ disagreed. The suggestions that NJ has made to permit Zumanjaro and Ka to run together are either too tedious to get together (500 foot tall crane) or too expensive in order to install, so both rides are better off operating as they currently are.
The only fault of GAdv's was they canned a 330 foot drop tower in what is now Battle for Metropolis's spot.
Only way I can see them canning the moving platforms is if they reduce the operations down to two or even one train consistently. The station is going to be designed for continuous movement in mind, so I doubt it'll be a thing even if they cut down half their available units.
So it seems I've been misinformed, though that does have me curious about how is it that the park was basically caught unaware that NJ was going to have a problem with the plan to operate both rides simultaneously until after the second ride is constructed.
Is it common for parks in general to not consult with the respective certifying agency during planning and/or construction to ensure they'll be able to operate the attraction(s) as desired? Or, in this case, the certifying agency had to at least have some published rules/guidelines/statues (whatever legal term needs to be used here) to base their decision on, otherwise that decision would rest on the authority of the certifying agent and not the agency itself acting in it's governmental capacity?
Lots of questions, and that makes me really curious what the reality is here since obviously that's the way things are and as a multi-million dollar park operator I'd have to assume they didn't just go on a wing and a prayer then rolled over when it didn't pan out.
As for Jersey Devil, I guess the proof will be in the actual station design - if there's moving parts that could easily be turned off in exchange for slower dispatch cycles with reduced capacity then I could see it happening after a few seasons, especially on slower days... But it's also quite possible that I'm still completely wrong so there's that
Not replying further after this about Ka but... yeah. Somewhat along these lines. The permits and everything were put in place and GAdv was operating off of precedence from Lex Luthor that it would be fine to operate alongside Ka. When the state inspectors were brought in in May for certification they dropped two notable things that needed to be done in order for Zumanjaro and Ka to pass certification for the year.
1) The operating system of Kingda Ka needed to be linked to Zumanjaro's so that when Zumanjaro is in the middle of a cycle in any capacity Ka cannot be launched.
2) A protective roof needed to be put in place over Zumanjaro's station that would prevent loose articles from Ka falling into the station while the cars were in home position.
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For Jersey Devil, the station layouts I have had described to me have all been pretty pointed towards a continuously moving station instead of a traditional station like what Railblazer has:
Jersey Devil will have a split in the line for Single Riders, and parties of different sizes (2-3, 4-6, 7+) alongside Flash Pass's line merge. A similar station design to Golden Lasso Coaster:
Where riders get on and off one at a time while the train is moving. The only time a train would stop with this system would be if there was someone with mobility issues trying to get on the ride like a wheelchair transfer.
What is happening at the end of the mid-course? It looks like it’s hitting a speed bump too fast. Looks like a substantial jolt. At about the 47 second mark. Hope that's not as bad as it looks.
Keep in mind it’ll speed up. This was literally the first test run, and the park itself has stated it’ll run faster than this
I think this thing is getting an odd amount of hate personally. I see a ride that looks like it will be nuts in the back row. Yeah, it doesn't look quite as snappy and intense as the other Raptors have, but those were downright VICIOUS looking. Given the length of these trains, I'm not surprised that it doesn't look quite as insane as those smaller Raptors.
The big difference in ride style between the original Raptors and this one is due to the design complications that RMC encountered with the first two. You're most likely never going to see Raptors that intense from RMC ever again.
I wish it had an actual turn. The purely out-and-back nature of it is a bit disappointing, but that's the space they had to work with. Also, I don't know if this is a photoshop or what, but this seems like it could cause issues?
A water dummy flying off the train seems like it would at least result in an investigation, and might result in a restraint re-design?
A water dummy flying off the train seems like it would at least result in an investigation, and might result in a restraint re-design?
Brambo
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How I felt the first time I rode Skyrush
Must be an ACE member.
As a member of ACE, that was one of the funniest things I’ve read on this forum 
I am sure there was an investigation especially after SF's experience with some of the Superman rides. But water dummies are also not perfect mold of the human body so restraints don't always work the same way on them as they do humans hence why the ones on Pantheon were ratchet strapped and shrunk wrapped to the seats during testing.
I doubt they will do any investigation. The dummies don't meet the manufactures requirements as height or body extremities- and they already know that. Also it could have happened simply because the water dummy had a hole in it and the water was leaking out causing the "body" to shrink. I am shocked that they didn't ratchet strap them down in the first place though.