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I got somebody on Facebook who claims the enchanted parks CEO stated that they will be spending 365 million on new rides/renovations and park improvements in the first year on there parks! I got a good laugh out of that so I figured I’d share because there’s no way they even have that money to spend in a single season
 
I got somebody on Facebook who claims the enchanted parks CEO stated that they will be spending 365 million on new rides/renovations and park improvements in the first year on there parks! I got a good laugh out of that so I figured I’d share because there’s no way they even have that money to spend in a single season
then again, six flags great adventure has war on lines after premier parks bought six flags great adventure (as well as the other six flags parks) from time warner) in 1998
 
I got somebody on Facebook who claims the enchanted parks CEO stated that they will be spending 365 million on new rides/renovations and park improvements in the first year on there parks! I got a good laugh out of that so I figured I’d share because there’s no way they even have that money to spend in a single season
I think the number they heard was the purchase price of the parks.
On a serious note, they really should change almost nothing for the first season. Even with the existing park magement staying in place, it is going to take a little bit for the new executives to get a feel for their new parks. Anyway it will take a while to see new rides, as most new flat rides ordered today will take 18 to 24 months, and their is only a couple of manufactures that have the manufacturing capacity to deliver a large rollercoaster in less than 4+ years.
 
I think the number they heard was the purchase price of the parks.
On a serious note, they really should change almost nothing for the first season. Even with the existing park magement staying in place, it is going to take a little bit for the new executives to get a feel for their new parks. Anyway it will take a while to see new rides, as most new flat rides ordered today will take 18 to 24 months, and their is only a couple of manufactures that have the manufacturing capacity to deliver a large rollercoaster in less than 4+ years.
They could be looking to buy gently used rides to relocate as a way to generate buzz and marketing in the next 12ish months while also gearing up projects for 24 months out.
 
I’m not trying to excuse Enchanted Parks at all with this question:

How much does anyone think that the timing of how close to the season this sale happened is impacting the ability to get things properly changed over? (That said, that’s a really shitty ‘compensation’)
 
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How much does anyone think that the timing of how close to the season this sale happened is impacting the ability to get things properly changed over?

Oh, it almost certainly is, but both parties chose this timeline and both parties had a responsibility to structure the deal in such a way as to protect the interests of both their own brands and their customers. A sloppy transition makes both Six Flags and Enchanted look bad.
 
New article about James Harhi's visit to St Louis

Some points I thought were interesting
  • Enchanted Parks app expected to launch around memorial day
  • He hears all of the guests asking for RMC Boss
  • Still not committing to any large capital investment, still committing to learning the parks like he's said before. The article says "Any larger capital investments could be identified for 2027 and 2028"
  • Getting more Warner Bros walk-around characters is a near term goal
He also addressed why he views St Louis as the flagship, rather than Worlds of Fun. Harhi says that St Louis is the "largest-attendance park in the portfolio, has the strongest ride lineup, and sits at the center of one of the largest catchment areas in the Midwest" and that the goal for St Louis is for it to become a regional destination park, pulling people from 3-4 hours away.
 
Harhi says that St Louis is the "largest-attendance park in the portfolio, has the strongest ride lineup, and sits at the center of one of the largest catchment areas in the Midwest" and that the goal for St Louis is for it to become a regional destination park, pulling people from 3-4 hours away.

I maintain that this is profoundly stupid. I am convinced that Worlds of Fun has a notably higher ceiling and that its current position is notably stronger too. Honestly, in what world does St. Louis have a stronger ride lineup than Worlds of Fun? I really don't understand this stake he has put in the ground in St. Louis at all.
 
I maintain that this is profoundly stupid. I am convinced that Worlds of Fun has a notably higher ceiling and that its current position is notably stronger too. Honestly, in what world does St. Louis have a stronger ride lineup than Worlds of Fun? I really don't understand this stake he has put in the ground in St. Louis at all.
If he said population of metro area then it makes sense because its about the only thing StL has on WoF.
 
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If he said population of metro area then it makes sense because its about the only thing StL has on WoF.

Speaking of...


Also, unrelated, but I just looked it up: Before the sale, Worlds of Fun gold passes were at $90 and Six Flags St. Louis gold passes were at $55. Uh, maybe that's part of the reason for the existing attendance disparity...? And what are those St. Louis guests getting you, Harhi? Your cheap daycare for teens had to close early the first day you owned it because of massive brawls. Maybe that should be a red flag telling you attendance isn't the end-all-be-all metric to chase here?

Look, he's supposed to be the professional here and maybe in 10 years I'll be visiting regional destination park, Mid-America by Enchanted Parks. I SEVERELY doubt it though. And to see money thrown into this pit instead of seeing it invested at Worlds of Fun, a park I legitimately do believe has some regional pull potential, just frustrates me to no end.
 
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Less from a business perspective and more of an overall assessment, but having visited the both of them these past few days, I'd say I'd be significantly more inclined to return to St. Louis than I would be to return to WoF. WoF did kinda have the big empty Carowinds kinda feeling, even if some of the landscaping was nice. Also St. Louis definitely felt like the more touristy area to me. It seemed like there was a lot more to do in the vicinity than there was in KC, but then again I didn't spend any time in downtown KC so I don't necessarily know what I'm talking about
 
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