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I thought this idea was more like the roaming scare actors could roam into lines and on rides if they chose to, not they were dedicated riders. I took it more as a random occurrence to make people keep their guard up, implying nowhere is safe. I think they have actually done that before. I may be mistaken about how it will play out though.
 
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Yeah just to reiterate what someone else mentioned with regards to the suggestion to discontinue the shows after 6- the people in the shows are highly trained professional actors/singers/dancers who are making significantly more money than the scare actors, so it really doesn't make sense to put them in mazes where they aren't using their skills and are costing the park way more than just hiring more scare actors. Plus how if they have to work in their shows during the day but then are expected to stay into the night to staff mazes, that's like a 12 hour shift.
 
I thought this idea was more like the roaming scare actors could roam into lines and on rides if they chose to, not they were dedicated riders. I took it more as a random occurrence to make people keep their guard up, implying nowhere is safe. I think they have actually done that before. I may be mistaken about how it will play out though.

Scare actors also walk through the park when they are on their break. They could easily hop onto a ride, head to their break and then back to the house. I don't think the Coaster Creepers idea is going to affect staffing within haunted mazes much if at all.
 
Coaster Creepers includes a roaming horde, they wont pull actors from anywhere else to staff this. they will have dedicated scare actors just for this horde of coaster creepers.

having an actor in a show play a part of a scare actor is like is like having a 5 star restaurant chef be the fry cook at mcdonalds. it is in poor taste and would likely detract good talent from the park.
 
Coaster Creepers includes a roaming horde, they wont pull actors from anywhere else to staff this. they will have dedicated scare actors just for this horde of coaster creepers.

While this is true, there are very reasonable debates to be had over whether or not those scareactors are better allocated elsewhere (spoiler: they are).
 
having an actor in a show play a part of a scare actor is like is like having a 5 star restaurant chef be the fry cook at mcdonalds. it is in poor taste and would likely detract good talent from the park.

I never meant force the actors :/ it would be their choice if they wanted to be a scareactor
 
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I keep hearing ads on the radio for a Howl-O-Scream job fair, and one thing that sticks out is they specifically mention they are paying more this year. Just something I noticed, makes a few questions turn in my head, like are they upping their investment, will this cut back on how many people they will hire, will this increase the number and quality of applicants? Hopefully this is another positive sign for increased investments in BGW by SEAS, and hopefully it means we'll see high-caliber scare actors who are enthusiastic about their jobs and provide quality entertainment.
 
Say what you will about the theme of dystopia, but the lighting and atmosphere looks pretty damn cool.

Deadline 2.0 aka Dystopia has the potential to be a very good maze. I am not upset at all with the theme; it seems like they're playing off some crooked utopia of an underground city, which Deadline's scenery could easily be manipulated into. While the theme is hardly innovative, and yet another step further from anything relevant to its home hamlet - it could be a great maze if staffing is good.

Excluding purchases and existing Deadline props, materials from Wendigo Woods and Catacombs could easily be utilized to truly imitate an underground subway/sewer/facility with a variety of unique looking scenes.
 
@Zachary sure staffing them elsewhere is good, but that wasn't my point. at least they have budgeted and planned to have this coaster riding horde separate, so long as they can get the staff.

walking this statement back; they will use scare zone actors from that area. so essentailly the rides are part of the scare zone, this isn't a bad idea and reduces the required amount of staff, just have one or two actors ride the rides every half an our or so.
 
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Deadline 2.0 aka Dystopia has the potential to be a very good maze. I am not upset at all with the theme; it seems like they're playing off some crooked utopia of an underground city, which Deadline's scenery could easily be manipulated into. While the theme is hardly innovative, and yet another step further from anything relevant to its home hamlet - it could be a great maze if staffing is good.

Excluding purchases and existing Deadline props, materials from Wendigo Woods and Catacombs could easily be utilized to truly imitate an underground subway/sewer/facility with a variety of unique looking scenes.

If anyone remembers the screens they used to make it simulate zombies moving around you and trying to get to you, I feel like these could be repurposed in a super cool "Big Brother Is Watching" sort of theme where they have the screens flashing different types of "propaganda"
 
If anyone remembers the screens they used to make it simulate zombies moving around you and trying to get to you, I feel like these could be repurposed in a super cool "Big Brother Is Watching" sort of theme where they have the screens flashing different types of "propaganda"
Yeah I would prefer if they used the screens as screens, instead of trying to make obviously screened images look like real life happenings
 
Question on the HOS fast pass. In past HOS event, the fast past has been discounted after a certain time in the evening correct? When is that time usually?
 
I fully agree that they should do this. However, I believe the main reason that they stopped this at Busch was because of staffing issues in “vital” departments (rides, games, food, etc.). Once college kids go back, it’s VERY hard to keep a full staff. This problem is rampant at KD, where they currently let seasonal employees transition to Haunt at night after their day shift, but if they are short-staffed in their “home department” for any reason, they are not allowed to go to Haunt and they have to work at their day location until the park closes. They end up missing out on the Halloween fun.

I’m surprised KD hasn’t adopted Busch’s current practice yet and just not let seasonal workers transition, as when these particular monsters had to stay at their ride or game or whatever, it creates another problem—short staffing in the mazes or scare zones. That, and I’m pretty sure these people end up at their day placement more than they end up at Haunt. I always found this whole practice odd, as I thought people came to Haunt for the mazes and scare zones (the temporary stuff) and not the stuff that’s available all season. If both parks want good ratings their Halloween event, I would put the workers where the focus will be rather than worry about a few customers that are mad that Verbolten isn’t running because they don’t have enough ride operators.

I feel strongly about this topic in particular; but in short form, I don’t see Busch changing their policy anytime soon. I see the Coaster Creepers stuff as an odd choice considering the problems with staffing, as I said earlier.

I know when AB owned the park that day employees could work HOS as an actor, they also recalled WC employees to work. There was a shift once the park was sold at some point, I was told, however true or not, is Blackstone looked to reduce payroll to some degree. AB would offer a slight pay differential if you worked day and what you were paid as a scare actor.

As far as college kids, they bounced few weeks before labor day and exchange students numbers would also shift, in some areas numbers would be down 50% and many others picking up O-C shifts, mostly area managers and leads.
 
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I know when AB owned the park that day employees could work HOS as an actor, they also recalled WC employees to work. There was a shift once the park was sold at some point, I was told, however true or not, is Blackstone looked to reduce payroll to some degree. AB would offer a slight pay differential if you worked day and what you were paid as a scare actor.

As far as college kids, they bounced few weeks before labor day and exchange students numbers would also shift, in some areas numbers would be down 50% and many others picking up O-C shifts, mostly area managers and leads.

When I worked at Busch in 2016, we had a few employees from WC get positioned on my ride then moved to the haunted houses. However, I'm not sure if they keep up the practices as I didn't work last HOS.
 
In their latest video showing a "scare from each year" or whatever, the 2018 clip is a dude in a gas mask wearing gloves. Dystopia?
 
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In 2010 while they could’ve done a path scare as the theme that year was The Scare is Everywhere the event didn’t debut any new houses. In fact they took a house off the line up by removing Caverns of Darkness, although we did get a revamped Catacombs.

On a side note, a lot of work has been taking place at Vault XX. It’s very hard to tell by this zoomed in grainy image, but many of the rooms are in place and props are still awaiting to be set up.
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