Grizzly

[mtpelepele]

I think roughness and what I call violence are two different things that get mixed up with a lot of people. I like a violent coaster, one that tosses you around a bit. I don't mind a bruise on the side after a couple of rides. Grizzly has always had a wonderful, out of control violence. I don't like roughness. Jackhammering, shuffling, potholes, bottoms of hills so compressed the wood no longer gives, those are just uncomfortable, and don't add to the fun. Grizzly had developed a LOT of this, and the only solution is a major retracking. Hopefully, we keep the first, get rid of the second, and replant a bunch of trees!

 

[Mushroom]

KD planted a ton of new trees and plants as part of the Jungle X project, so I’m hoping that at least means the idea of replanting Grizzly’s trees is on their radar. Still, I’m lukewarm about this project now because that cluster of trees was the most forested area that remained within the ride’s layout, and even with a generous replanting job, it’ll take years if not decades to get back that feeling of careening through the woods.

 

[Intimidator325]

Is it possible to replant trees that are already half grown?

 

[mikes]

Is it possible to replant trees that are already half grown?

I'm certainly not an expert, but it can be done. It does require lots of work to ensure important roots aren't destroyed in the process.

 

[warfelg]

It’s also VERY costly to put a mature enough tree. I would do only 2-3 mature and mostly young trees.

 

[Jonesta6]

https://www.kingsdominion.com/blog/2022/the-rebirth-of-the-grizzly---part-2

So among all the words, there's a confirmation of re-tracking.

 

[Coasternerd]

I also see “more ferocious hills”. I wonder if they might be reprofiling some do the hills or adding a new hill somewhere? Wishful thinking at least.

 

[bwick29]

I also see “more ferocious hills”. I wonder if they might be reprofiling some do the hills or adding a new hill somewhere? Wishful thinking at least.

Hopefully the first trim brake vanishes. Got a ride where it didn't engage (for whatever reason) and that train was  screaming fast. Train floated well, and it was a "smoother" run, but I can bet it would make maintenance much more frequent.

 

[Crunchewy]

More ferocious hills might not mean they are doing any reprofiling. An extensive retracking would make it run faster and in that way hills could be more ferocious. Just don't want to read too much into it.

 

[Coasternerd]

Hopefully the first trim brake vanishes. Got a ride where it didn't engage (for whatever reason) and that train was  screaming fast. Train floated well, and it was a "smoother" run, but I can bet it would make maintenance much more frequent.

There’s a trim brake?

 

[bwick29]

There’s a trim brake?

I may be mistaken, but here's a shot of what I've always believed to be a trim at the crest of the second hill (first one post-drop) before the turnaround. If not, well, I've fooled myself for years and just cherish one great ride above the rest.

 

[bill s]

Those that actually rode it this year would prefer less ferocious, but that doesn't make good copy. Of course also don't want it neutered or have to wait years for intensity to come back, and there's some opportunity for more intense profiling.

That blog entry also says designer Summers' "credits" included coasters like Rebel Yell which all sources say was designed by Allen so I'm not sure what's meant by "credit".

 

[Coasternerd]

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I may be mistaken, but here's a shot of what I've always believed to be a trim at the crest of the second hill (first one post-drop) before the turnaround. If not, well, I've fooled myself for years and just cherish one great ride above the rest.

Those are anti roll backs, not a trim brake lol. You’ll notice it does tend to crawl up into that turnaround sometimes, that’s what those are for.

 

[bwick29]

Those are anti roll backs, not a trim brake lol. You’ll notice it does tend to crawl up into that turnaround sometimes, that’s what those are for.

I stand corrected!

That said...... This one time I had a really good/fast ride on Grizzly that was lightyears better than the rest!

 

[Intimidator325]

I wonder if they could steepen the drop? But given how short grizzly is I’m not sure if that’s possible.

 

[Crunchewy]

They do seem to be doing something substantial to the lift hill/drop. That is the section that is extensively taken apart, isn't it?

 

[EdK]

Those are anti roll backs, not a trim brake lol. You’ll notice it does tend to crawl up into that turnaround sometimes, that’s what those are for.

I thought it was to help keep the train from coming off the tracks.

 

[mtpelepele]

Nope, those are to prevent the train from rolling backwards down the hill if it doesn't have the momentum to clear it. You'll hear that same clack clack clack sound you hear going up the lift hill as you go over them. Wood coasters have upstop wheels under the rails and guide wheels inside the rails to keep it on the track.

 

[Coasternerd]

You'll hear that same clack clack clack sound you hear going up the lift hill as you go over them.

Exactly, lots of the older woodies, just due to the way they were designed, tend to have anti roll backs on their taller elements, so if it is running slow, and doesn’t clear the hill, it will catch it on the anti roll backs. Racer 75 also has these on the entry to the turnaround.

 

[Jonesta6]

Random thought: Unless something happens and we find that Grizzly gets converted into something else (adding/replacing elements, extending the course, etc), this is basically just extensive off-season maintenance on an existing ride.

Couple that with a few known culinary changes and nothing announced either by the park or at IAAPA so far, either they're holding out for a bombshell announcement of something new coming, or we're not likely to see any major CF capex coming to the park for at least another year.