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I think it’s safe to say Discovery Kingdom is getting sold. No new major additions in years and now this? Fright Fest during October is Discovery Kingdom’s biggest money maker. If you’re axing the biggest moneymaker from a park, it implies you don’t intend to invest in it nor keep it around too much longer.
 
Definitely a strange indication, but it's hard for me to believe Six Flags is just giving up on the Bay Area entirely
 
I can believe it. Knotts and Magic Mountain are two of the biggest money makers in the chain. Do you really need three other parks in California (HH Concord) if 2/3 of your flagships are in the same state? Especially if one of those parks has animals and a hard to work with local government?
 
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It's just very clearly a market they can't reenter once leaving. I'm not saying it won't happen but it would surprise me. Most of PNW already lacks a major amusement park. Silverwood has a huge catchment area, now that Wild Waves is closing the entire state of Washington pretty much just has their state fair, Oregon has Oaks and Enchanted Forest, and without SFDK and CGA, NorCal would just have Gilroy and Santa Cruz. That would leave an immense region without a thrill-focused amusement park. Not impossible, but it'd be a bold move for sure to rid themselves of both properties imo

Granted, almost everything you've said has parallels in my claims about Great Adventure, and everything I'm saying to you has been used as an argument against my (previous and sometimes still ongoing) contention that Great Adventure will be sold. Your concerns are valid, particularly the animals. I think they're a financial drain that leave both SFDK and Great Adventure vulnerable
 
I can believe it. Knotts and Magic Mountain are two of the biggest money makers in the chain. Do you really need three other parks in California (HH Concord) if 2/3 of your flagships are in the same state? Especially if one of those parks has animals and a hard to work with local government?
When those parks are a farther apart (SFDK - SFMM is a 5 and a half hour drive with no traffic) than the distance between SFGAdv/Dorney/KD/SFNE, yeah they do.

By closing both NorCal Parks, they are completely abandoning the market and leaving the people who live there with Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk as their only day-trip-able amusement park destination. I agree that there's not enough demand for both SFDK and CGA to live on, but closing both of them completely seems very far fetched.

I also wouldn't take the "cancellation" of Fright Fest while Tricks & Treats and WinterFest are both still on the calendar as an indication of anything. Knowing the history of SFEC and buggy, not properly coded and linking websites, I'll take this with a grain of salt until there's some sort of confirmation.
 
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I am in the "Discovery Kingdom is almost certainly up for sale" camp. No idea if cancelling FrightFest should be read as something happening imminently on that front, but I definitely believe Six Flags is more than willing to exit NorCal should the right offer come along. Discovery Kingdom isn't one of the core ten parks, losing the NorCal market really has zero effect on the rest of the chain, building at SFDK is difficult, the land is valuable, IT'S AN AMUSEMENT PARK IN CALIFORNIA WITH FUCKING DOLPHINS—there are just a nearly infinite number of reasons I think Discovery Kingdom is likely high on Six Flags' list of parks to offload.

I could imagine the park limping along with next to no investment for years before being sold, I can imagine sale of the land to a REIT with a gradual sunsetting of the park a la CGA, or I can imagine an imminent sale to another park operator. Honestly, the most difficult thing for me to imagine is that Discovery Kingdom remains in the Six Flags chain 5 to 10 years from now. The chain is up to their eyeballs in debt, they need capital to make their major parks more profitable, and Discovery Kingdom is, at best, dead weight and, at worst, a massive liability. And it's definitely a park/a plot of land that I think is likely very sellable.
 
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I wouldn't read too much into this just yet, especially since SFDK's Fright Fest was probably the sorriest haunt event in the chain. More likely than not, they've simply decided to give something different a try using all the assets from California's Great America, hoping that the event will bring in higher profits by being less expensive to pull off. One of the things I've heard repeatedly is that the ability of SFDK to pull from the CGA market is a major decider in whether it's worth keeping the park, so running an event like this is a good way to test how much pull the park actually has on the bay area as a whole. If the event winds up being a flop, then the future of the park becomes a lot more questionable, but from what I've heard, the WinterFest event transferred over from CGA last year performed better than Holiday in the Park, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same holds true here.
 
I would see fright fest 2026 being replaced by halloween haunt after California great america folding
 
I think any park getting rid of its scary Halloween event is a sign that they may be getting sold off because Halloween is a massive moneymaker.

From what I can see, Tricks and Treats (as a park-wide event) has been the kiss of death for any park that has had it. Michigan’s Adventure has been sold off, and CGA isn’t far behind.
 
The animals are not an issue,
They have a great record with the USDA.
And are constantly inspected by local and state officials with good marks.
And patrons go to the park for the animals.
It's really just
The value or the land,
The bloat of debt,
Attendance levels fluxing,
CGA closing repercussions,
Those will be the deciding factor on the history of this park.
 
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The animals are not an issue,
They have a great record with the USDA.
And are constantly inspected by local and state officials with good marks.
And patrons go to the park for the animals.
Lots of bad press with the dolphins and it is going to get louder over the next year.

Dolphin's euthanization at Six Flags in Vallejo prompts calls for relocation of other dolphins
VALLEJO, Calif. -- A bottlenose dolphin that spent more than four decades at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom in Vallejo was euthanized last month after years in captivity, prompting an animal rights group to renew calls for the park's remaining dolphins to be moved to seaside sanctuaries.

Chelsea was a bottlenose dolphin that was part of Six Flags Discovery Kingdom's marine mammal program and was used in shows and visitor encounters.
On Monday, PETA sent a letter to Six Flags Entertainment Corp. CEO John Reilly asking the company to end its swim-with-dolphins encounters and commit to moving the surviving dolphins at Discovery Kingdom to seaside sanctuaries. Such sanctuaries would allow the animals to live in larger, more natural environments while remaining under human care.

PETA Becomes Six Flags Stockholder in Bid to End Dolphin Exploitation at Discovery Kingdom
Vallejo, Calif. – PETA is bringing the fight to free the dolphins trapped at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom in California straight to the boardroom of Six Flags Entertainment Corporation, having just purchased stock in the theme park giant. PETA will use its shareholder status to attend Six Flags’ annual meetings, ask pointed questions that other shareholders need to hear, and directly pressure executives to release dolphins like Merlin—who was abducted from his pod family in the Gulf of Mexico in 1989—to seaside sanctuaries.
 
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It's just very clearly a market they can't reenter once leaving. I'm not saying it won't happen but it would surprise me. Most of PNW already lacks a major amusement park. Silverwood has a huge catchment area, now that Wild Waves is closing the entire state of Washington pretty much just has their state fair, Oregon has Oaks and Enchanted Forest, and without SFDK and CGA, NorCal would just have Gilroy and Santa Cruz. That would leave an immense region without a thrill-focused amusement park. Not impossible, but it'd be a bold move for sure to rid themselves of both properties imo

Granted, almost everything you've said has parallels in my claims about Great Adventure, and everything I'm saying to you has been used as an argument against my (previous and sometimes still ongoing) contention that Great Adventure will be sold. Your concerns are valid, particularly the animals. I think they're a financial drain that leave both SFDK and Great Adventure vulnerable

Speaking only for myself and not pretending to be representative of NorCal... As much as I actually really liked Discovery Kingdom the last time I visited, I would honestly say that I preferred Santa Cruz and Gilroy Gardens. So, assuming there is even a cultural interest in amusement/theme parks, I would argue that the loss of SFDK and (the much worse in my experience) CGA doesn't have as much impact as losing BGW and KD would for Virginia (for example).

Does anyone know how much Northern Californians even care about amusement/theme parks? In my observation there are parts of the country where parks are an integral part of people's lives. Virginia, Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, for example, seem to support the industry culturally. A lot of people who live elsewhere, however, may plan One Big Disney Trip for Their Families once or twice in their lives, but generally focus their leisure spending on other things entirely. So, does NorCal have a large "thoosie" population? If not, then regardless of the animals, large amusement parks don't seem like the best financial use of the land.
 
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The animals are not an issue,
They have a great record with the USDA.
I think the issue is the cost of animal maintenance, even on days when the park is closed. Yes people go for the animals but it comes down to ROI if continuing to have them really sustains the park financially in terms of attendance and profit.
if discovery kingdom goes, that would leave six flags great adventure to be the only animal park left
SF probably wishes it weren’t involved with this either. Fortunately the safari is so separated it’s easy to keep it separate or do away with it outright. In trying to make the resort a true flagship destination I can see GAd keeping the safari, maybe even leasing out its operations, or just closing the safari down the road when the dry park reinvents itself as a draw that doesn’t need the safari.
 
It's the same problem as SFA - neglected for decades, and the cost to "fix it" (improvements to the park rides and infrastructure; stripping out the animals for new rides or vice-versa) would tank any potential profit margins.

I mean, I am all for these parks succeeding, but Six Flags wants to run big parks at scale - not smaller, family-friendly parks or places that scrape by year-to-year. CGA is right up there with SFDK: it's not a broken park at all, and with the proper love and budget, it could last for a long time into future generations - but it would take a vision that they can't really spend on smaller properties. They are too focused on fixing the larger parks that have a lot more reach. This also explains the Enchanted Parks sale and other moves they've made latetly. I'd also throw Frontier City and Darien Lake on that pile of "thanks, but no thanks" that Six Flags management has to be trying to unload.
 
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