Food & Wine Festival 2013
- Thread starter Haberdasher1973
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I don't know about the numbers, but to be fair, out of all the times I visited the F&WF I only had to wait in a real line once. And that was only for a few minutes with like 5 people in front of me. Most of my eating escapades were walk-ons. 
Ben asks: "Do you have any proof to back this up."
Well Ben, it would be illegal to comment on unpublished park attendance numbers since Busch is traded on the stock market. However, If you spent as many nights at the park during Food N Wine as I did and counted the number of people in line that's all the proof you need. And compare that with the lines for other special events, Christmastown, Howl-O-Scream, concerts, etc.
Well Ben, it would be illegal to comment on unpublished park attendance numbers since Busch is traded on the stock market. However, If you spent as many nights at the park during Food N Wine as I did and counted the number of people in line that's all the proof you need. And compare that with the lines for other special events, Christmastown, Howl-O-Scream, concerts, etc.
I'm not going to say Glissade13 is wrong because neither of us can provide any kind of proof, but I will say that I've been told otherwise.
Everytime I got in line for food I was served almost immediately. The booths were incredibly efficient, so to say there weren't any lines means it wasn't successful is just simply not true. It just means they served their guests quickly which leads to happy customers.
^This
The only time I had to wait for food was when they were out of something and were busy making more.
The only time I had to wait for food was when they were out of something and were busy making more.
The lines were bare or barely occupied. Period. I saw this every night. You guys are confusing that with the other issue, the event was a critical success. The reviews were great, the small number of people who did spend money at it loved the food, disliked some of the portion sizes and values and the lack of seating.
^Even with that being a possibility, the event has massive potential. The park surely learned a lot over the past weeks and will apply those lessons learned come next year.
Plus they have already spent the money buying all the equipment and I would bet money the buildings could be stored and rebuilt.
Plus they have already spent the money buying all the equipment and I would bet money the buildings could be stored and rebuilt.
glissade13 said:
I'd love to see your source for this please and thank you.
glissade13 said:
Well from sources within I've heard it will be returning for another year, with no plans for removal as of late. In fact, much praise has been given to the executives that has come from such different people, guests and team members alike.
glissade13 said:
Yes the semi-permanent buildings were required. They added to the theming of the event. I prefer extremely detailed booths to give me an idea of what country is being represented. Do you want generic houses that have almost absolutely no themeing? Perhaps remove the word Christmas from the park during Christmas Town because this is honestly what it sounds like. As for a full staff, they didn't hire too many new people. In fact most of the team members working were pulled from other snack stands and restaurants. Point is if there was no event, they would still be working somewhere.
glissade13 said:
The goal is to make the event as in your face and successful as possible. Of course they are going to throw as much money as they need. With any new business venture you have to put a lot of start up money into something new for it to be a success. The booths around the park got ALL guests involved. If it were in a centralized in one place no one would know about it. It has to be out everywhere. In fact your idea makes me think of a corporate executive trying to spend absolutely nothing to make a fortune.
All in all, I think your post is an extreme opinion that I really do not think matches up with a large portion of the GP's and the enthusiasts communities. Although I will note it is YOUR opinion that you felt the event was a waste and you can think that all you want. However in my opinion, the event was a huge success.
For the record, the park didn't expect Food & Wine to turn a profit this year.
Party Rocker you need to think before you speak. You sound very ignorant on this subject. YOu say it was a success but admit it wasn't when you say the 1st year of a venture you expect to lose $. It did lose money, however, if you were paying attention to what I said, I CAN'T quote you sources or figures. Now that Busch is on the stock market if I share any figures and insider info that is an illegal act called Insider Trading. Something to keep in mind when blabbing your mouth here. The only source I can legally quote is your own observations about the low attendance in lines which was obvious. If you are quoting sources that say Food N Wine is returning you are already breaking insider trading laws. I am merely speculating that it won't return because of the extremely low attendance I and others observed. I provide no inside info. If your sources say it will return that is something you shouldn't post.
Get off your high horse for a moment here and don't take things so personally.
These are in no way mutually exclusive statements. The success of an event can be judged on whether or not it met the park's expectations. If the park's expectation was to lose $200,000 and they ended up losing $200,000 or less, the event was a success.
No one is asking for numbers, they're asking for qualifications.
I can confirm. I'm clearly typing this from a jail cell.
Well then your source info is crappy and you haven't given anyone a reason to believe you.
Multiple sources in very high places have told me it's returning. How long will it take for the police to show up at my door? Do I have enough time to finish cooking this frozen pizza?
glissade13 said:
These are in no way mutually exclusive statements. The success of an event can be judged on whether or not it met the park's expectations. If the park's expectation was to lose $200,000 and they ended up losing $200,000 or less, the event was a success.
glissade13 said:
No one is asking for numbers, they're asking for qualifications.
glissade13 said:
I can confirm. I'm clearly typing this from a jail cell.
glissade13 said:
Well then your source info is crappy and you haven't given anyone a reason to believe you.
glissade13 said:
Multiple sources in very high places have told me it's returning. How long will it take for the police to show up at my door? Do I have enough time to finish cooking this frozen pizza?
It's not really insider trading if we're talking about it in a public forum, especially if we're not moving stocks based on any info we hear.
