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May be the park could use the existing space of the queue for a Curiosity Caverns type attraction. For those who don't know what curiosity Caverns is; it's an attraction at Busch Gardens Tampa that debunks myths about "creepy" animals. I wonder how much they can move those cave walls. If they were able to move the cave walls at a decent distance, then this would be perfect. Otherwise, they would have to have all of the exhibits in the preshow rooms.
 
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Shafor said:
I don't know that I'd consider it a "major" attraction. I mean, the ride sucked, nobody rode it... maybe they just eventually figured "what's the point?"
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Whether or not it was a featured attraction, the park closed the only "ride" attraction in the entire hamlet of Killarney. That is really bad for public image. These are the kinds of actions Six Flags parks took (I remember vividly people spelling doom and gloom for SFKK after they shut down Twisted Twins and a whole other section of the park in 2008, closing the entire location 2 years later).

I might be looking through rose-colored glasses, but following the parks for over a decade in the BEC era, I don't remember them ever having to make these kinds of cuts. Then again, the park may finally going through the economic crisis it delayed with loans taken out for Griffon, Verbolten, and Mock Tower so they are making the kind of cuts everyone else was making 3 years ago.
 
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JewlzX2 said:
I just wanted to see actually how bad the ride was. I saw members have a love/hate relationship with the attraction. Well, maybe, hopefully, something else will go in there, and try upgrade. Something 3D. I mean closing a ride doesn't mainly mean the park's in trouble. Maybe they "heard" how much all the members didn't like it, and are going to go with some ideas that's been thrown around. It's been said that they have taken ideas from here. I'm thinking positive here!!
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Thank you Jewlz! I enjoy the positive outlook as well! Maybe they were listening and we are gonna get Corkscrew 2!
 
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pandorazboxx said:
I don't get the doom and gloom from their first quarter reports. They lost $40M, but that's less than they lost last year. I guess we'll know more by the end of august. I think it honestly come down to the management in williamsburg.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-05-22/news/os-seaworld-first-earnings-20130522_1_seaworld-orlando-12-percent-seaworld-president
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You shouldn't lose anything. You should make.

The park has guests, so the demand is there. It's a simple matter of making supply match demand, not overspending on the supply or supplying too much.

I have said before and I'll say it again...you cannot let people in for free every day. I get that theoretically they're spending money once inside...but you cannot let everybody in the State in everyday all spring and summer for $70. That's ridiculous.

And before you say that they must be making more this way than the old way, I'd caution that we all know their internal metrics are flawed as they can't get people o take surveys and it's very easy to conflate correlation with causation without supporting info. People may spend more in the park now than before, but that could be unrelated to ticket prices.

Offering a BOGO or "come once, get discounted admission for the season" is fine. Letting people in free every day? I don't care what they say...I wouldn't do it if it were my park.
 
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Shafor said:
Are we really on here bemoaning "budget cuts" a week after a massive, brand new, month long park event just wrapped up?
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If it is anything like Beer Bands and BBW we have down here in SeaWorld and FW at EPCOT then the event was a massive cash grab.

Food events are just that, big cash grab as booze sales pad the bottom line fairly solid. Having booze booths and turning it into a makeshift for a month or two certainly helps to make the bottom line look better. I do not feel that that can be lumped into the category of month long event like Illumanights(?). The nature and purpose of it is vastly different.
 
I don't drink. I never drink. I've had about half a red solo cup's worth of alcohol in my whole life (I'm 30 next month). That being said, I understand a money maker when I see one and the FIRST thing people say to me when I talk to them about Busch Gardens is...

The brewery tour.

I understand that the current ownership aren't brewers, but they might want to look into pumping up that beer connection.

Allow micro-breweries to set up shop in the various restaurants in the park...turn Festhaus into a biergarten...something.

Stop spending money on fireworks.

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EDIT: Topic, right...

Uhhhhh.....put beer in the Europe in the air building (?)
 
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Shafor said:
When it's a ride that NO ONE rides, has a horrible reputation, and has been nothing but a massive embarrassment to the park since it opened...?
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Sounds like Pirates 4D. :p How many weeks notice did we get on that?
 
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pandorazboxx said:
I don't get the doom and gloom from their first quarter reports. They lost $40M, but that's less than they lost last year. I guess we'll know more by the end of august. I think it honestly come down to the management in williamsburg.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-05-22/news/os-seaworld-first-earnings-20130522_1_seaworld-orlando-12-percent-seaworld-president
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You shouldn't lose anything. You should make.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear, they generally expect to lose money during that period of time since 6 of their parks are closed. They're used to losing money in that quarter. They were able to lose less money this year, which is a good thing. It's all good as long as they make money the rest of the year, which they've been doing. Read the article, it's a generally positive outlook for this year for the Seaworld company.
 
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Shafor said:
When it's a ride that NO ONE rides, has a horrible reputation, and has been nothing but a massive embarrassment to the park since it opened...?
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That's beside the point. The reason it was closed was due to budget, not because no one liked the ride. There is a big difference.
 
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David said:
That's beside the point. The reason it was closed was due to budget, not because no one liked the ride. There is a big difference.
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I was going to ask:

Was anyone there yesterday? Were there people on the ride?

What I'm wondering is if they had an empty ride all weekend and then someone under stress just decided: what's the point?

I've got a baaaaaaaddd feeling about this.
 
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pandorazboxx said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, they generally expect to lose money during that period of time since 6 of their parks are closed. They're used to losing money in that quarter. They were able to lose less money this year, which is a good thing. It's all good as long as they make money the rest of the year, which they've been doing. Read the article, it's a generally positive outlook for this year for the Seaworld company.
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Performing better as a result of SeaWorld is not something to really stare at too long. With WDW in decline it is no shocker than guests that might have spent certain days at Mouse House are going elsewhere. SeaWorld has chopped a good bit of its Entertainment portion that I have noticed over the past couple of weeks. The true telling numbers will be Q2 when it releases. A better painted picture of what the parks are doing financially will show a much better picture of what is going on.
 
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JMHO.. maybe now that Pirates AND EITA is closed, MAYBE they will sell those off to a different park, and come back with some kick ass ride!! I have a feeling that July is going to be a BIG month for them. That's really when families take their vacation. I also believe that the July 4th event will be a great take off for them. I have faith that BGW will see it's 40th AND THEN some.
 
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