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I agree. Probably a knee jerk reaction to the suits.
I also worry that when BGW does reopen if theydid put any holds on payments they will pull some crap where they say your payments were not kept current and therefore your grandfathered membership needs to be upgraded or you will show up the day it opens and your pass no longer works, which erased your dining and drink plan and the line at guestrelations is 2 hours long to get it straight.
 
I also worry that when BGW does reopen if theydid put any holds on payments they will pull some crap where they say your payments were not kept current and therefore your grandfathered membership needs to be upgraded or you will show up the day it opens and your pass no longer works, which erased your dining and drink plan and the line at guestrelations is 2 hours long to get it straight.

Given the current state of their database questions we were kicking around earlier, it sounds reasonable to me that unless SEAS either has or hires staff/a vendor to straighten everything out on the back end, guests will likely be forced to deal with Frontline employees... Some who may or may not have the appropriate levels of training or temperament to help.
 
Maybe they will be handing out stacks of cash like they did when they origionally said we had no choice but to switch to memberships.......they could call it a SEAS Stimulus package.
 
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Governor Cuomo of New York stated amusement parks are apart of his reopening discussions, but doesn't like the idea of opening them up soon after everyone gets let loose.

Personally, I don't blame him. People are looking for excuses to do anything right now in public.
 
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Governor Cuomo of New York stated amusement parks are apart of his reopening discussions, but doesn't like the idea of opening them up soon after everyone gets let loose.

Personally, I don't blame him. People are looking for excuses to do anything right now in public.
But at the same time its not fair to make say Coney Island park stay closed yet people are packed right outside the gates spending money and eating at other locations. As long as they meet requirements like everyone else they should be allowed to open as well.
 
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I'm not saying that's what he's going to be doing.

It's more that while the parks stand to make some good money opening up because of how restless people are, it's incredibly risky considering where we stand with testing and the lack of a vaccine.

Coney Island (and its surrounding area) don't really stand a chance at reopening in the near future like upstate NY because of how widespread Covid is in NYC itself.
 
We certainly won't be driving 4 hours to find out we can't get in. Extending passes doesn't address EZPay patrons. We have been wondering if someone would sue BGW over this, like Six Flags is getting.
 
Lets hope this is an outlier and not just the first in a series of dominoes to fall... ?

 
Lets hope this is an outlier and not just the first in a series of dominoes to fall... ?

They mention the labor issue. That’s going to be a big issue for all the seasonal parks on top of social distancing and sanitation.
 
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Another thing to think about as places open up: Not everyone is going to feel comfortable going back to work for health reasons.
 
Another thing to think about as places open up: Not everyone is going to feel comfortable going back to work for health reasons.
We touched on this somewhere here where employees don't want to come back (and they're making good money with the unemployment monies). If they get called back and the employee declined for whatever reason they could see their classification changed to "voluntary separation" and they lose their unemployment check. Plus, I believe the extra $600 was only for the first 4 month.
 
We touched on this somewhere here where employees don't want to come back (and they're making good money with the unemployment monies). If they get called back and the employee declined for whatever reason they could see their classification changed to "voluntary separation" and they lose their unemployment check. Plus, I believe the extra $600 was only for the first 4 month.

That's a different issue than what I was referring to. And correct that $600 was for 4 months, and a thing to note with it is not everyone gets it. But it was something that I saw being talked about on CNN when it comes to the meat processing plants, is some employers are going to have to understand about individual employees comfort.

For example a retiree that works part time for BGW as a tram driver might not feel comfortable going back to work because they feel even with precautions they could be exposed.

Personally I think it's going to be a smallish part of the workforce, but it's a concern regardless.
 
Bigger metro areas may have a number of people looking for work from struggling industries that won't easily recover (e.g. air travel). This may offset some of the labor supply that bigger parks need.
 
Possibly in bigger markets like NYC, LA. But there's a couple things to consider when it comes to the amusement industry.
1 - Do they actually want to do so?
2 - Is the job going to be in a field they qualify for?
3 - How many jobs will actually be available?

There's no way to be sure what jobs or what type of work will be available. Someone working in the travel industry full time might not be looking to take a part time job as a ride op. Someone that was making a decent wage as a bartender/server might not look to take a job as a cashier at a grab and go spot in a park.

Could there be a small offsetting number that do so? Sure, there's always that possibility. I wouldn't count on filling out your staffing that way. Plus once their line of chosen work comes back they could easily leave you.

There's just so much discussion we could have in the staffing portion of this alone.
 
Not everyone has the choice. You guys are talking about people like they have the option to be picky and choosy with their jobs, and the sad fact is, no one can afford to be picky or choosy where they work at a time like this. We are at a moment in time where many jobs have bee lost all at once with rent and utility pricing not really decreasing, and the result is many people are gong to be stressing out about getting work. They just want to make money to pay bills and live.

Depending on what jobs become available, people are going to run to whatever they can get. Over time, they may try to gravitate back to their more desired job, but in the moment, people are going to take whatever they can to try and pay the bills.
 
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At the macro level it would depend on the metro area's unemployment rate and possibilities for recovery. If unemployment is high, jobs in the park are going to look attractive.

At the micro level, any individual is going to do what's in their interest and what makes sense for them. If they can't return to bartending because bars/clubs are still closed, a job at a park that helps pay the bills may look attractive.
 
The issue with saying "people will take what they can get", to me, is we don't know what jobs are going to be available. Yes there might be some people that never got on unemployment that would take a job really fast. But conversely there might be someone laid off 2 weeks ago, who's job hasn't reopened, that rather stay on unemployment up to another 10 weeks collecting near $1000 a week as opposed to going to KD/BGW for a 30 hour work week at $14/hour.

The point is, we have no clue what's going to happen when things re-open. That's been my point all along. We have no clue. To say there's going to be enough staff, or it won't take too much extra staff, or people will take whatever job they can...it's the kind of statements that misrepresent the uncertainty of what happened.

At the macro level it would depend on the metro area's unemployment rate and possibilities for recovery. If unemployment is high, jobs in the park are going to look attractive.

At the micro level, any individual is going to do what's in their interest and what makes sense for them. If they can't return to bartending because bars/clubs are still closed, a job at a park that helps pay the bills may look attractive.

Well, like I said above, that depends. What if BGW opens May 8th in some capacity, but that bartender was laid off April 1st. That bartender has 8 more weeks of unemployment eligibility. And if their bar/restaurant still isn't open, they might not make enough at BGW to offset what they are getting through unemployment. I don't think we know enough of the situation, and with each business still doing their own thing, there's not going to be a swift statement to apply to all cases. It's going to very much be case by case.

The assumption that anyone will take anything operates is a majority come off unemployment at the same time, and not all businesses open together, and some businesses don't prioritize bringing back their pre-shutdown staff. We have in this thread and the BGW specific thread people talking about how it won't take that long to re-open because they could just hire the people they had and don't need all new training. I feel that logic applies to all areas of business.
 
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