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As I said before, stop spreading misinformation based on your "feelings".

Disney has no intent on abandoning MagicBands. They are extremely versatile. They are not just a method of payment, they are also a way to tag photos, unlock your room, maintain fast passes, and more. Not to mention, people collect MagicBands almost like they collect pins. They make Disney a crazy profit while being extremely cheap to manufacture.

It has even been reported that MagicBand sales will continue, and resort guests will be able to purchase them at a discount. Just because they aren't going to handout freebies anymore does not mean the product is discontinued.

Furthermore, the reason for using the terms 'Face Coverings' as opposed to 'Masks' is more likely a legal catch than anything else. If they use the term mask it opens up the can of worms with the more prohibited Halloween-type masks, whereas using the terms 'Face Coverings' is more directed towards just simply the protection from the virus.

Geeze, I can not believe the amount of half-truths and misinformation being spread all based on 'feelings'. It makes me feel like you are purposefully trolling these forums.
 
As I said before, stop spreading misinformation based on your "feelings".

Disney has no intent on abandoning MagicBands. They are extremely versatile. They are not just a method of payment, they are also a way to tag photos, unlock your room, maintain fast passes, and more. Not to mention, people collect MagicBands almost like they collect pins. They make Disney a crazy profit while being extremely cheap to manufacture.

It has even been reported that MagicBand sales will continue, and resort guests will be able to purchase them at a discount. Just because they aren't going to handout freebies anymore does not mean the product is discontinued.

Furthermore, the reason for using the terms 'Face Coverings' as opposed to 'Masks' is more likely a legal catch than anything else. If they use the term mask it opens up the can of worms with the more prohibited Halloween-type masks, whereas using the terms 'Face Coverings' is more directed towards just simply the protection from the virus.

Geeze, I can not believe the amount of half-truths and misinformation being spread all based on 'feelings'. It makes me feel like you are purposefully trolling these forums.
I guess we will see in the long run what happens with magic bands but I am courious how you know what Disneys "intent" is on a product they use that they are obviously coming out with a newer application that could make the magic band unnessassary. Everything you mentioned can be done through your phone now and at the end of this year will be the promoted way of access for those features paving the way for magic bands to join Pal Mickey. As far as masks, yes they are trying to set the diffrence for masks that are specifically allowed for kids only during MNSSHP and the "face coverings" that they are requiring. Im not sure your point, I never said anything else but the fact they were very specific on how we should use the term "face coverings" and not masks. Im not spreading as you say 'misinformation" I am only relaying what ive heard today.
 
I'm giving the thing on Magic Bands a good read and every article I'm reading points to the fact that what is being don't with is the act of giving out free magic bands. There's been some pointing to safety concerns of minimizing the number of contact ways that there could be transmission of coronavirus. They also admitted that the more and more phones are capable of is treading onto what the intent of the Magic Band was. The third point that keeps coming up is the use of the app for virtual queueing, fastpass signups and other things like that is part of this decision making.

However, there are articles pointing out that Disney is working on finding and figuring out ways to make certain things more Magic Band exclusives to encourage the purchase and use of Magic Bands over the app, however the free Magic Band would likely never come back.

Insert my shocked face here over a company deciding to take something that was free and monetize it:


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I do not have a horse in this race at all, but;

“With this new offering on the horizon, we will be retiring our complimentary MagicBand distribution to Disney Resort hotel guests for new reservations with arrivals beginning Jan. 1, 2021. Disney Resort hotel guests will continue to have the option to purchase new MagicBands at a discount, and we’ll be introducing even more colors and designs featuring favorite Disney characters in the future.

Guests who prefer not to purchase a discounted MagicBand will be able to use the My Disney Experience app or a Key to the World card during their visit. We will still offer MagicBands in retail locations and on shopDisney.com, and guests will be able to continue using the wearables throughout Walt Disney World Resort.”
 
Addressing a few things I’ve read here:

1. I have a massive MagicBand collection and I can’t imagine that they would give up the revenue from people like me, who will continue to buy more. Deciding not to give them away for free just seems like a business decision, not a move to discontinue a popular type of merchandise.

2. We have, actually, observed problems with the current system. I have enough MBs that often I have to either use the specific band issued with my reservation, or have a different one coded at the front desk to access my room. In other words, most of my bands will not open my resort door, because I have so many. We have been told at several resorts that this is a known problem, and the only current way to fix it is to go to a Guest Services and remove several from my account. Since this is a system issue, I think it makes sense not to give repeat guests additional free MBs. It also leads me to wonder if the system as a whole is becoming overloaded.
 
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It also leads me to wonder if the system as a whole is becoming overloaded.

This was kind of what I was thinking - so the technology needed to operate RFID chip scanning is an already sunk cost but the need to expand the data storage and processing capabilities or shrink it could be fairly expensive if not managed correctly.

I'm not an expert as much as some other folks on here seem to be, but I just spent a week taking some courses on Azure and data architecture.

Some of the main principles I've learned are that streamlining your architecture to scale/contract as needed, plus ensuring resource provisioning is available, essentially reduces costs/waste plus provides much higher levels of service.

Tangential to that, an RFID reader is essentially a Smart Device IoT hub in a network - there's a lot of processing and resources needed to be accessed and communicated both directions for the scale Disney uses, which eats up costs and can cause latency issues if not outright failures.

However, that's not to say that by applying the correct architecture and resources they couldn't achieve everything they need. But if data storage and/or processing is on-premise and not cloud based, it gets really expensive and labor intense to manage.

My guess is that it makes more sense in terms of cost and reliability to try shifting some of the device users to a mobile app that uses a different architecture with potentially fewer resources needed to accomplish the same thing.
 
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My mentioning of your remarks about Face Coverings versus Mask terminology was not necessarily in disagreement and was definitely not connected to your misinformation campaign on MagicBands. It was reconfirming that -- Yes, there is a very clear distinction between a 'Face Covering' and a 'Mask'. However, I doubt it makes much difference since Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party has been cancelled.

In keeping with MagicBands, you originally claimed that Disney will be 'Sunsetting' or otherwise discontinuing the sale and use of MagicBands while opting to increase features of the mobile phone application as a replacement. I called this a lie because it simply is. There has been no substantial announcement or evidence that Disney has any intention of discontinuing MagicBands.

As I mentioned previously, Disney has committed to increasing its push for guests to use contactless payment methods such as using MagicBands, phone payment methods, or as a last resort credit/debit cards. Why would Disney promote MagicBands if phone payment methods work just as well? Because it is a service they already provide, that returning guests know and feel comfortable with. It also provides Disney's guests with more options.

Outside of Disney's commitment to continue to push for guests to use alternate means of payments, the MagicBands are already capable of so many things. They are the 'Swiss Army Knife' of Disney reservations and abilities. That I can currently recall, they are able to perform such acts like: Acting as a Park Admission Ticket/Pass, Acting as a Resort Room Key, Acting as a Restaurant Reservation, Acting as a Contactless Payment Method, Acting as a method to attach photos to your online account for in-person photos as well as on-ride photos, Acting as FastPass+ Reservations, among other things. While all of these things might eventually be able to be converted to their mobile phone application, that would require more work. New code has to be written and tested and implemented.

Extending on that hard work that needs to be done, the MagicBands are an existing service that fills everyone of those needs perfectly as is. Why force so many already existing guests to learn a whole new way of things, when you can simply keep what you have that works so well. I am not saying that the mobile phone application will not obtain more powerful features, because that is the nature of progress. However, I believe that by adding more features to the mobile phone app, Disney is giving guests more options and more power to do as they please. If you want to continue using a MagicBand, you can. If you want to use your phone, you can. Some people may not feel comfortable using MagicBands, while others are so ingrained using them that they have to use them.

It all comes down to options and convenience. MagicBands and the mobile phone application work together. They compliment each other. They are not competing forces. They are on the same team. Just like how an iPhone and Apple Watch are on the same team. One does not replace the other, they compliment each other. Other examples would be like the Skyliner and Busses. They do not cancel the other out, they compliment each other and work together to transport guests allowing for more options and increasing capacity overall. The same concept is applied to the Monorail and Ferryboats.

When it comes to FastPass+, you use your phone to make the reservations and you use the MagicBand to confirm when you arrive. The phone takes care of the actual setup which requires some complexity. Whereas, the MagicBand takes care of the convenience. Having to pull your phone out constantly risks dropping or otherwise damaging your phone and drains battery life quick. If you used your phone solely for everything, you would end up with a dead phone real soon. Unless you prepared by packing a battery pack, which should not be requirement to bring with you on your trip to the park.

And touching on fragility of your phone, there are water rides in which you don't want to bring your phone on. MagicBands are virtually waterproof whereas your phone will get destroyed coming in contact with large splashes and soaking. Not to mention the ability of losing your phone on a roller coaster or other ride. MagicBands stay perfectly strapped to your wrist and hardly ever get lost. Why risk your entire vacation bringing your phone onto a ride when you can sue the safe option of having a MagicBand.

Finally, I will just add on to @Nicole 's post and say that from a collectors standpoint, it doesn't make business sense to remove the product. It provides great profit on a simple and cheap device. You might as well say that they are going to stop selling pins and trade 'virtual' pins instead. That would be ridiculous.

Your assumption of MagicBands coming to an end is based on the cancellation of a 'freebie' program. This is the time to capitalize on contactless tech, and by not providing a freebie, Disney is allowing themselves to make more money than they would have. Guests will likely feel more obligated to purchase a MagicBand for the convenience. Guests will still be able to buy them, and resort guests will get a discount; however, that is a new stream of money coming in for Disney. If anything, people should be outraged that Disney is trying to force people to pay more money.

Now for a break form MagicBand discussion and switch over to reopening altogether.

With the rise of cases, I do not think closing down again is likely to happen. There is so much political and economical pressure to open, I think we will only see more restrictive measure take place. We will likely see a face covering requirement issued by governments widespread, among other things. Also, I think resorting to closing down should be a last ditch option. The purpose of reopening was not because the situation was getting better. It was to reopen businesses in a way that they can control and handle the situation. If anything, we have learned that these restrictions are either not being enforced by businesses like they should or that they are not enough.

I feel that the restrictions are not being enforced fully enough and if numbers keep rising, the government and businesses will do everything in their power to crack down hard on people in an effort to stay open as long as possible.
 
A few thoughts on MagicBands that @VonDerrick’s post triggered in my head.

- I also use my MagicBand at my resort gate.

- MagicBands are perfect for water parks.

- I inevitably find myself wishing I had a MB, when I am at other parks, especially Uni, where I have to leave everything in a locker. They are wearable and rugged, unlike my phone and pass holder cards.
 
Oof. I don't know how reopening the theme parks is looking now...



Is there any reason to believe theme parks were significant contributors to this? The article cites the ongoing protests, and I’d imagine that the beaches - where mask-wearing and social distancing are rare - are a much bigger factor than the theme parks.
 
Is there any reason to believe theme parks were significant contributors to this? The article cites the ongoing protests, and I’d imagine that the beaches - where mask-wearing and social distancing are rare - are a much bigger factor than the theme parks.
I’d imagine bars and restaurants are a far bigger problem than the beaches or theme parks. Even without masks at the beach, people tend to spread out and UV from the sun is a strong disinfectant.
 
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@VonDerrick I apologize if I gave the appearance of spreading lies. My statement was merely based on a quick scan of previous comments. I’m not sure if you were actually targeting me with your statements, but if you were, sorry.
 
Oof. I don't know how reopening the theme parks is looking now...



That article is from 14 days ago. They are at 4000 new cases daily by now.

I still believe it is only a matter of time until they have to shut their parks back down. You can only ignore an exponential rise in COVID so long.
 

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Listen, I don't want to sound like a dick, but I guarantee at least half of those new cases were completely preventable. I was in Florida two weeks ago to visit family (I drove, and was tested for antibodies), and NO ONE wanted to wear a mask in downtown Tampa. It was a mess.

I hate the fact that people are willing to infect twice as many people as needed just because masks are "uncomfortable" or "not necessary". Motherfucker, yes they are. Stop with the conspiracy theories and flatten the curve.

That's my mini-rant done for the day, how are y'all?
 
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Y'know, I worded that incorrectly. What I mean is that even with people going out for necessities and to get testing, some still REFUSE to wear a mask, causing a problem for everyone that needs to be outside. It sucks.

I was out volunteering at one of the COVID drive-through test sites last weekend.

Even there were people that came to get tested but did not bother to wear a mask... People worried enough about being sick to go get a test, but can't be bothered to wear a mask to protect the ones they rely on for help.

But then again... the CERT leadership organizing the volunteering didn't bother to wear a mask either and the guys that interviewed the patients took off their face shields with their bare hands in-between customers without washing their hands.


I doubt there will ever be enough people to take this serious without strong government enforcement.
 
Stop with the conspiracy theories and flatten the curve.

That statement is the problem. We were told that we needed to take these precautions to flatten the curve. That was what 4 months ago now and they were originally saying a couple weeks to do this. You sit at home and see on tv that protests are fine but going to a beach isnt.
 
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