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The problem with doing this is the event gets better the further into the event it gets. Also going on slow days to avoid crowds and problems also means not seeing everything open.

HoS for me is entirely unreliable in when it improves. I do not agree with the common belief of "the later the better". I have had extraordinary experiences on both the first and last weekend of the event, and just as many terrible ones. You basically just have to get lucky that the staffing that night is strong, the scarers haven't had any bad experiences with guests and are in the mood to have fun with it, and the crowds are manageable. The first one gets better later into the event, but the second two are better towards the beginning.

Go when you want. If you anticipate it to be shit, it will only impress you from there!

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I feel like the first weekend always has way more scare actors and after then some either quit or get fired. Weekdays are almost always a scaled back event, Saturday has the most and then sunday a little less. If there’s anything in the outside world that could affect attendance that too plays a factor…..rain, ect will cause people to not come and BGW knows this so they staff less on those days. You pay the same for every night thought and should get the same event.
 
My son is attending BGW camp this week, and I have been popping into the park for an hour each day before pickup to ride a coaster or two and also collect HOS quick queue passes. My observation is the park certainly has more of a Six Flags feel these days, and the fights later in the day are not surprising. Think this is due to a combination of ride ops newbies, Groupon deals, and pent up demand to be out and about. (If anything, it is loyal pass members like us that should be the most pissed off about things like Pantheon, Ice Breaker, and Gwazi, yet we know how to behave!) It's unfortunate, and I think the only way to avoid it is arriving for rope drop and getting out of there a few hours later.
Yea, it's sad, but my point was it's not just theme parks seeing this issue. Heck there was a brawl outside of Romp N Roll 2 weeks ago in Glen Allen. Saw one in Target a few weeks ago. Walmart yesterday. One of my students said there was an all out fight on a golf course the other day.
 
Or we go the exact opposite way.

When you enter Busch Gardens, you get injected with a small explosive at the base of your brainstem. In the case that you misbehave (get into a brawl, smoke weed in the park, cut in line, take photos during Celtic Fyre), BGW can set off the explosive quietly killing the guest who is then picked up by (themed & costumed!!!) BGW personnel.

During Howl-o-Scream you can pay money in a bar to push the button that set off the explosive.
 
Or we go the exact opposite way.

When you enter Busch Gardens, you get injected with a small explosive at the base of your brainstem. In the case that you misbehave (get into a brawl, smoke weed in the park, cut in line, take photos during Celtic Fyre), BGW can set off the explosive quietly killing the guest who is then picked up by (themed & costumed!!!) BGW personnel.

During Howl-o-Scream you can pay money in a bar to push the button that set off the explosive.
Shut up and take my money
 
Or we go the exact opposite way.

When you enter Busch Gardens, you get injected with a small explosive at the base of your brainstem. In the case that you misbehave (get into a brawl, smoke weed in the park, cut in line, take photos during Celtic Fyre), BGW can set off the explosive quietly killing the guest who is then picked up by (themed & costumed!!!) BGW personnel.

During Howl-o-Scream you can pay money in a bar to push the button that set off the explosive.
Add in studio interference, a cringey script, and extensive reshoots and you got the plot for a bad movie brewing!
 
So let me get this straight, there was a fight at Griffon, involving people that should be easily identifyable. Theres only one exit that would take at least 10 minutes to walk to which is guarded by "park security" and usually a JCC cop yet those people still managed to slip out of the park unnoticed? Give me a break...the park could give two shits less there was a fight, probably ignored it and hoped it would just go away untill videos of it appeared on local news then they decided to try and do damage controll.

And to your comment @belsaas I dont consider smoking week in the park misbehaving....its breaking the law!
 
Or we go the exact opposite way.

When you enter Busch Gardens, you get injected with a small explosive at the base of your brainstem. In the case that you misbehave (get into a brawl, smoke weed in the park, cut in line, take photos during Celtic Fyre), BGW can set off the explosive quietly killing the guest who is then picked up by (themed & costumed!!!) BGW personnel.

During Howl-o-Scream you can pay money in a bar to push the button that set off the explosive.
Went into Busch Gardens and got into a fight… it was quite the blast…
 
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Does anyone know if the park has a no-touch policy for security staff? Something about preventing lawsuits...

Curious if even if there was a lot of security staffers available and in the area they may not have the capability to do much except follow suspects and document evidence as possible.
I believe you are right, they either weren't too close by, or needed to wait for someone with a little more authority.

I was on the bridge as this all went down. EMT's were there mere moments after those women passed by us. Security and what appeared to be a local officer didn't show up for another minute or so. It looked as if security had to wait for the officer to arrive, as they were sort of shadowing him. They sounded like they were relaying whatever info they had as they walked past us. They weren't in the queue too long before they made their way back past us with the other group of women and children heading towards first aid.
 
This got posted on Facebook Saturday, not sure when it happened exactly:

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I really wanna see one of these idiots try to hop a chain, fail horribly, and then fall flat on their face
 
My cousin and I were there yesterday and it's very obvious that the type of crowd at BGW has shifted. We saw 3, presumably teenaged, young men be told to leave Apollo after they were told 3 times to stop hopping over the queue bars. They refused to get off the train for long enough that one of the attendants got on the phone, I'm guessing to security as they were told not to leave the immediate area. (If the video hadn't been posted on the 11th, I would have assumed these were the people in the fight)

Edit: I forgot to mention that people were cursing at them when they didn't immediately get off after being told they weren't allowed to ride. It definitely took a while, but the f-bombs thrown around were definitely not necessary. A couple people were saying to just let them ride anyway. What seemed to be the adult of the group tried to say that she was the one asking them to come over to her from the other line so they should get to ride and the operators we're having none of it.

Another kid almost got security called on him after running in a house and jumping onto and then off one of the floor props to get away from an actor. The employee that called him out was very stern and told him he needed to watch himself.

Less relevant to fights, but I saw so many people with backpacks in queues and even saw a few getting turned away at the front of the line.
Whoever this new crowd of people is, they are not at all familiar with BGW and the most basic rules, let alone respecting them.
 
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