Is it always this bad during the summer? We usually go during the Spring then come back during HOS. During the Spring it definitely doesn't get this rowdy.
Busch Brawls
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I think the husband may be referring to his ex-wife being arrested at WCUSA. I don’t see how else he would know the black girls got arrested at WCUSA unless there is video evidence of that incident and a positive ID. The fact that it was deliberately withheld from the father shows there may be some degree of guilt on the mother’s behalf.
Her significant other in the yellow did seem to try and separate and defuse the fight at first though. It’s hard to tell unless you here everybody’s side to the story. Overall I’m under the assumption that this is situation as a whole was a shit show. The fighting, the arguing, and the instigating bystanders.
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My previous comments may be quite incorrect as to whom this commenter may actually have been related to - I was presuming he was referring to one of his girls being the one we can see pulled back from the handrail and made some assumptions from there - shows how confusing this whole thing is.
If they werent tresspassed they should have been, and for both BGW and WCUSA. And if they werent who ever from BGW security that made that call need to be retrained or removed. This is the reason you have this happening again.Teach people a lesson and they wont do things wrong...at least most people.
No. HOS is historically the roughest season at BGW.
I've already said something about this in another thread this year, but I'm going to reiterate it again: Crowds have been rougher this year than I've ever seen at BGW. People are rude, obnoxious, pushy, loud, and angry. People's respect/concern about the park and its other patrons seems to be at an all time low. Another purely anecdotal observation: the ratio of families with kids vs groups of young adults seems to be massively out of wack this year compared to previous years as well. It looks a lot more like a Six Flags park than a Universal park visitation party makeup-wise.
Making things even worse, security is stretched INCREDIBLY thin right now. There are NO WHERE NEAR enough uniformed security folks in the VA SEAS parks right now. This year I can often walk a whole loop of BGW without seeing a single security person. That's a PROBLEM.
Crowds are large and rowdy already this year. Howl-O-Scream is going to be a shit show if BGW doesn't step up their security game BIG TIME.
I somehow doubt things will get better in the next 60 days
That's what I'm afraid of. Ask any Scare actor in a maze. It's HORRIBLE. sucker punches, groping women. It's so prevalent that the actors become desensitized. I'm honestly afraid for the scare actor's safety this year.
I hope media attention around this fight will help light a fire under the park's ass.
I also wish we had publicly available videos of the at least two other fights that happened on Sunday to publicize like we did this one. That's why I split this off into its own thread really—I hope people find and share more of these videos. BGW doesn't care about the guest experience on the ground right now, but maybe if the local news is sharing shocking video from BGW fights every couple weeks something will change.
One also wonders if the poor guest experience everyone has been observing all season contributed. Perhaps tempers were already high, because of the slow and limited operations across the park. Not that I am just excusing anything; just pondering whether a normal BGW experience would have led to happier, more resilient guests, who were less likely to get in street fights.
I had a "gentleman" threaten to kill me when I was 17 and working the kiddie swings because his daughter was too tall to ride. In my face screaming at me to let her on and yelling all the things he was going to do to me if I didn't. The maintenance guys from BBW were leaving the station and heard him screaming at me and came over to help. He and his family were escorted out of the park and I was told to go on break for however long I needed.
TL;DR-people suck.
The thing is people just seem to be extremely short tempered and nuts right now. Back in June we had a customer jump over a counter and assault one of our starbuck's servers breaking his jaw and giving him a concussion over a loose drink lid.
Honest question. How can a person be banned from a park if your not a member or fun card holder. If you have a single day ticket how would they know?
Practically speaking, bans from the park don't do anything to keep people out. Yeah, if you're recognized by security, they can nail you for trespassing. That said, the likelihood of a random security person recognizing someone who was banned a couple months back is remote to be charitable.
Unless BGW wants to invest in the surveillance tech at Pentagon good luck with that.
I think it would be cheaper to invest in the tech (basically facial recognition at entry), than having their reputation become like that of SFA and to a lesser extent KD. Fights and assaults scare away a lot of families and elderly visitors, both of which are demographic groups that spend a lot of money in the park.
I anticipated a rather dramatic shift in the general "quality" of the average parkgoer as the intents and culture of those running BGW started to orient more towards a more common American amusement park philosophy; big flashy rides, hip events, and corporate partnerships. Personally, I see this as the ramifications of general quality of experience decreases over the past ten years including immersivity, food quality, benefits to being a local "frequent-flyer" that typically attract the older crowd, entertainment value outside of big thrills, and employee/customer relations quality. I don't see this problem with the quality of guests improving anytime soon as the SEAS monster continues to distort and shift towards the philosophies that pleases the shareholders of the other amusement park giants.
As someone whi doesnt really visit VA anymore but grew up over there, this is why I now consider Silver Dollar City the new BGW. They still know how to balance all that and the park is beautiful too.
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I honestly hope HERSCHEND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT gets ownership of BGW and BGT one day. I doubt it will happen, but my recent trip to Dollywood 3 years ago really gave me Anheuser-Busch vibes...
oh my god what i would do to get herschend as the owner of bgw and bgt. they could finally get these parks back to its former anheuser busch glory