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"grover's happyland coaster" ~ oh man that is too funny. I call it "Grover's Happy meal Coaster" as you could easily find a similar product in a Happy Meal.

OK- I know, I am super mean to Sesame Street, but here is the rub. My belief is to have a good park for kids; parents have to have fun too. If they used say, "the Muppets" vs. Sesame Street it would be universally popular with both children and adults. I cannot remember what animator/ creator once said this, and I paraphrase.."Make the cartoons for the parents because for each child there are two more adults forced to watch and you have a hit show."

If Busch Gardens made the kids park with the parents in mind.. both the kids and adults would be happy. For example - no trees; big mistake. The kids are off riding their sad little rides and the parents have no place to sit in the shade. Have a place where the parents and kids can climb around and both play in, which is why the big tree in land of the Dragons is so cool. I admit it; I go and climb around on it from time to time (and then douse my hands with Purell). I would also sell items for parents in these places.. my dad always had a coffee in his hand; in fact I think that cup o' joe may have been an actual appendage that grew out of his arm over time.

Another point is that the music and sounds are horrid in Sesame Street.. there is only so much an adult can take of squeaky, grating voices and tinky-tink music. BGW would benefit from toning it down and having a sanity break for the parents.

Yes, I know this post has nothing to do with permits as I got completely off topic.. but my thoughts on the building permit debate is this:

If BGW does in fact get their permit for 250ft, I would have to imagine it would be a coaster. If they placed it over the hill where the BBW was, it could technically add "additional" footage to the coaster making it taller than 250 ft. This would be wise for BGW in order to compete with the Intimidator at KD.

To follow-up they should build a smaller coaster nearby, like a Vekoma "family suspended" coaster. (Like a mini BBW) Here is the link: http://www.vekoma.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=10 BGW should build a coaster for young adults like this.. and of course, name it something that has "Wolf" in it. ;)
 
No! No! No! No, no, no, no, no. NO! (Is that enough) :p

I'm pretty sure that the day that Busch buys a Vekoma is the day that hell will freeze over. They can put in B&Ms, they can put in Intamins, they can even put in a Mack, but Vekoma is where I draw the line! Down with Vekoma!
 
Swiftman said:
No! No! No! No, no, no, no, no. NO! (Is that enough) :p

I'm pretty sure that the day that Busch buys a Vekoma is the day that hell will freeze over. They can put in B&Ms, they can put in Intamins, they can even put in a Mack, but Vekoma is where I draw the line! Down with Vekoma!

Awwwww... but it looks like a little Big Bad Wolf. It is cute. I guess that is not a good reason... but the concept of a family style steel coaster is all the same no matter who builds it.

I understand and feel your pain about Vekoma and their carbon copy coasters that are not all that smooth. I was just saying when I saw the photos of their suspended family coasters it made me feel all giddy and parental - like "who's the cute little BBW coaster? You are... "
 
I still think that the best possible replacement for BBW is a S&S FreeFly: http://www.s-spower.com/coasters/freefly/freefly.php

~Super unique
~Can be themed very well
~Would make a great terrain coaster
~There aren't any in the US
~For all ages and has a low height limit yet still thrilling (just like BBW)
 
The FreeFly wouldn't be a bad replacement for a family attraction. S&S is just a new name for Arrow Dynamics, so it would be the first time going back to that company since DF (not saying it couldn't happen), but I'm not sure if they want to take another chance on a new type of coaster with S&S. They might still have a bad taste in their mouth.

But it's definitely unique.
 
Well, the people at TPR seem to like it: http://www.themeparkreview.com/parks/photo.php?pageid=471&linkid=6789
 
Yeah, I saw that review, it does look like a fun ride, can't deny that.
 
Imagine a coaster like that going though a village like BBW did. Twisting, swinging, and nearly missing archways. Sounds like a very fun ride to me.
 
That 4th deminsion coaster they had on their site looked interesting. I wonder if they fixed the roughness problem Arrow had with their coasters
 
Looking at this coaster, it looks like S&S has gone with a more open experience, which is really something that is a huge reason why B&M's are so much smoother than Arrows (among other reasons). Arrow used to box people in as tightly as possible (can you lift both arms on LNM?). An open design means you don't get slammed around even if there is a lot of movement in the ride.

I wouldn't want to go on the 4th dimension coaster though, that's got to be a rough experience.
 
Chris said:
Looking at this coaster, it looks like S&S has gone with a more open experience, which is really something that is a huge reason why B&M's are so much smoother than Arrows (among other reasons). Arrow used to box people in as tightly as possible (can you lift both arms on LNM?). An open design means you don't get slammed around even if there is a lot of movement in the ride.

I wouldn't want to go on the 4th dimension coaster though, that's got to be a rough experience.

You may be right about it being rough. I've never seen anything like it.
 
I like wooden coasters, but I have to agree with the general consensus on one not working in BGW; in my opinion it would take up to much of a footprint in the park to maintain the feel that most of the park has that they cut into the woods to make the park rather than leveling everything and building on flat empty ground as seemingly every other park in the country has done
 
I feel like a complete smarty-pants for this.. BGT does have a new coaster this year.. Air Grover in Sesame Street Safari of Fun. (Coaster credit!)

Chris, I would hate you forever if you burned down a woodie built at BGW.. Unless I got to ride it first. :p

I'm such a coaster credit whore!
 
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