Thanks for the overview @jscll! Best round-up of everything happening with the mountain that I've seen!
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Was there the other day, made a few observations;
- Some markings activity at International Festival finally, namely a 2x4 arrangement of paint splotches and a flag. The markings between the construction fences and mountain hole are also labelled BRK1, BRK2, and BRK3;
There’s been two sets of boxes that I’ve seen photo proof of onsite, one cardboard stack linked to an Amsterdam-based shipper and another wooden batch labelled to a manufacturer that I will refrain from naming at this time. We saw the former sitting opposite the rebuilt mountain tunnel yesterday;
So yes, since my speculation here I’ve personally narrowed the project down to two companies, nothing conclusive yet. Vastly different and unrelated to the theories online, some of which are intentionally misleading. Either way, we’ll be eating good.
The WMG flying bins are cool, if not as smoothly implemented as the Yukon Striker system. There are more bins than needed and the dead end on the platform isn’t ideal for crowd flow, but it works. Between that and the super recent loss of seatbelts, trains are rolling for the first time in ages and the usual overflowing queue has turned into a <30 min line. Not bad, CW.
- Some markings activity at International Festival finally, namely a 2x4 arrangement of paint splotches and a flag. The markings between the construction fences and mountain hole are also labelled BRK1, BRK2, and BRK3;
There’s been two sets of boxes that I’ve seen photo proof of onsite, one cardboard stack linked to an Amsterdam-based shipper and another wooden batch labelled to a manufacturer that I will refrain from naming at this time. We saw the former sitting opposite the rebuilt mountain tunnel yesterday;
So yes, since my speculation here I’ve personally narrowed the project down to two companies, nothing conclusive yet. Vastly different and unrelated to the theories online, some of which are intentionally misleading. Either way, we’ll be eating good.
The WMG flying bins are cool, if not as smoothly implemented as the Yukon Striker system. There are more bins than needed and the dead end on the platform isn’t ideal for crowd flow, but it works. Between that and the super recent loss of seatbelts, trains are rolling for the first time in ages and the usual overflowing queue has turned into a <30 min line. Not bad, CW.
WMG never had seatbelts. The extra bins I assume are for the fifth train whenever they return to five train ops. (If you look to the boarding side after loading, there is a board showing the number of trains, and which seats are out of service.)
As far as the new construction, Canada's Wonderland is running a tight ship. Not only is there no leaks yet, we don't even know if this is for next year yet.
Hopefully when this construction is done, the high level waterfalls will return to the front of the mountain. (They have only run sporadically for years.)
As far as the new construction, Canada's Wonderland is running a tight ship. Not only is there no leaks yet, we don't even know if this is for next year yet.
Hopefully when this construction is done, the high level waterfalls will return to the front of the mountain. (They have only run sporadically for years.)
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K sorry could have sworn it had belts last year. Only mentioning because we noticed earlier that Snoopy’s Racing Railway (other ART in the park) had removed them, and if I’m also misremembering that then I will plead insanity.
Partially because I’m okay with talking about my own findings (Amsterdam) but not those of someone who didn’t want them shared. Partially because I don’t want to peddle around hearsay as a conclusion until we actually get one. And partially because nobody wants to be that guy, in the offchance that these aren’t for an existing attraction and the secrecy is spoiled.
Hard to say because this time of year in 2018 Yukon Striker was around the same stage, minus the completed tunnel/track. Seems like major prep work in the mountain is complete by now and we’re seeing the first signs of actual construction.
Edit; Sorry for the double post, meant to merge with existing comment.
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Yukon striker was originally slated to open in 2016, hence why Skyrider closed in 2014 (to date the only defunct coaster from CW). Yukon Striker got pushed back because Cedar Point decided they needed a coaster more, and took the B&M construction slot. This makes comparisons tricky since they had an extra three years to do prep work. Behemoth and Leviathan are probably not usefully to compare, due to pass over rather than through everything in their way.
I am guessing that if this is a 2025 project, we will see footers appear over by the old skycoaster plot soon. I doubt we will see any construction in guest accessible areas until September, as July and August are the parks busy months.
Good to hear that Snoopy's Runaway Railroad lost its seat belts, I only got to ride it this year due to the must ride with child rule last year. Too bad they did not build it with a station bypass track like Darkoaster. The ride is great and its seats are comfortable, but it's capacity is unacceptable for the busiest seasonal park on the continent.
I am guessing that if this is a 2025 project, we will see footers appear over by the old skycoaster plot soon. I doubt we will see any construction in guest accessible areas until September, as July and August are the parks busy months.
Good to hear that Snoopy's Runaway Railroad lost its seat belts, I only got to ride it this year due to the must ride with child rule last year. Too bad they did not build it with a station bypass track like Darkoaster. The ride is great and its seats are comfortable, but it's capacity is unacceptable for the busiest seasonal park on the continent.
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Little bit of context as well as some unwanted credit.
Footers are being built at International Festival now and Amusement Insiders was the first to identify them as Premier Rides;
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Not a fan but solid thesis, said they had documents that the park wouldn't allow to be shared, also fair play. Then he decides to put it on his paywalled Patreon page where everyone was known and trusted to not share it. So of course someone did. Park won't be happy, the heat will be well deserved really.
Six years ago the channel pulled this by photographing blueprints over a site manager's shoulder, then paywalling them to trusted individuals. Park has kept them on a leash since then for sakes of AI having the ability to actually leak stuff. Park knew the game would be up the moment hardware went into the ground, but the document's publicity - even with just a label and not a layout - was never to be repeated.
As for my take I had it between Mack Rides and Vekoma based on shipments, neither manufacturer of which logistically made sense. I have mixed opinions about Premier's involvement but will be optimistic.
Footers are being built at International Festival now and Amusement Insiders was the first to identify them as Premier Rides;
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Not a fan but solid thesis, said they had documents that the park wouldn't allow to be shared, also fair play. Then he decides to put it on his paywalled Patreon page where everyone was known and trusted to not share it. So of course someone did. Park won't be happy, the heat will be well deserved really.
Six years ago the channel pulled this by photographing blueprints over a site manager's shoulder, then paywalling them to trusted individuals. Park has kept them on a leash since then for sakes of AI having the ability to actually leak stuff. Park knew the game would be up the moment hardware went into the ground, but the document's publicity - even with just a label and not a layout - was never to be repeated.
As for my take I had it between Mack Rides and Vekoma based on shipments, neither manufacturer of which logistically made sense. I have mixed opinions about Premier's involvement but will be optimistic.
I wasn't sure who posted them at first, because AI made it clear that they wouldn't leak them on video because of agreements with the park. I figured someone else leaked them because the video shows it just lying around. Of course he leaked it on Patreon.
Why should they care what the park does and doesn't want to be shared? The park doesn't get to decide any of that.
In any case, putting information behind a Patreon paywall isn't creating any obligation or expectation for those patrons not to discuss or share what they read. Kind of absurd.
If this is going to be a Peimier ride, hopefully they have improved their trains, I feel like I am squeezing into a kiddie coaster with the sky rocket trains.
We all want new trains but I'd be willing to bet a large Baja Blast it simply will continue with Premier's current trains
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It’s bizarre they are so difficult to get inside of but once you actually sit it’s comfortable as hell. But as a 6’2 man, *clears throat* fuck getting in those trains.
Announcement is 8/8.
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They also changed their profile photo to the symbol that was in the teaser picture. x.com
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They also changed their profile photo to the symbol that was in the teaser picture. x.com
Looks like a bunch of Star Destroyers.
If this does end up being Premier, that kills most of my excitement for the project. Premier's current trains are *so* unpleasant even without comfort collars. Getting in and out of them is a chore, and they're typically low capacity (which should be a deal breaker for Wonderland). Their ride experiences are totally fine but not standouts at the parks that host them, unless that park's lineup is seriously lacking. Wonderland needs a standout thrill coaster, and if this ain't it, I can't imagine when they'd be getting it.
If this does end up being Premier, that kills most of my excitement for the project. Premier's current trains are *so* unpleasant even without comfort collars. Getting in and out of them is a chore, and they're typically low capacity (which should be a deal breaker for Wonderland). Their ride experiences are totally fine but not standouts at the parks that host them, unless that park's lineup is seriously lacking. Wonderland needs a standout thrill coaster, and if this ain't it, I can't imagine when they'd be getting it.
Uhh, Leviathan is in this park? That's a standout thrill coaster lol, there's only seven gigas on the planet.
If I can be honest I think beyond the fact getting in the trains sucks, Premier Rides has some of the more underrated forces of roller coasters.
You’ll get grey out positives, ejector air time, shit FOF is the only coaster ever to knock me off my equilibrium for a second. Full Throttle and West Coast Racers are above average coasters, especially Full Throttle, the best hangtime I’ve ever experienced by far. Also real talk, I’m not exactly unhappy if I get a quick Tempesto lap in on a BGW visit. Or the 2 Premiers at KD, Backlot is hilariously intense in the opening sequence, I had somebody refuse to ride Backlot but then hop right on 305 like nothing 15 minutes later.
Jokers Jinx is one do the best rides at SFA, Polty at SFFT, I’ve heard excellent things about the ride experience on Ice Breaker, then let’s of course remember Mr. Freeze is one of the most intense coasters out there. I felt forces I’ve never felt in anything else or just more simultaneous positives, negatives, and laterals on Mr. Freeze.
We currently don’t know the scope of this attraction and it could easily be the best thing Premier has done and I’m sure they’d love to win over the Six Flags management with this new ride.
You’ll get grey out positives, ejector air time, shit FOF is the only coaster ever to knock me off my equilibrium for a second. Full Throttle and West Coast Racers are above average coasters, especially Full Throttle, the best hangtime I’ve ever experienced by far. Also real talk, I’m not exactly unhappy if I get a quick Tempesto lap in on a BGW visit. Or the 2 Premiers at KD, Backlot is hilariously intense in the opening sequence, I had somebody refuse to ride Backlot but then hop right on 305 like nothing 15 minutes later.
Jokers Jinx is one do the best rides at SFA, Polty at SFFT, I’ve heard excellent things about the ride experience on Ice Breaker, then let’s of course remember Mr. Freeze is one of the most intense coasters out there. I felt forces I’ve never felt in anything else or just more simultaneous positives, negatives, and laterals on Mr. Freeze.
We currently don’t know the scope of this attraction and it could easily be the best thing Premier has done and I’m sure they’d love to win over the Six Flags management with this new ride.