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Maybe that too, but could be additional regulatory related hurdles (incoming regulation changes, delays in receiving further required approvals, them not getting their documentation together fast enough, who knows), increased costs (skilled labor shortages, tariffs dramatically increasing costs, other related items), or some combination of these and or other related possibilities.
oh boy, here's come the six flags Mexico style controversy all over again
 
Its possible it was a Mack Tower last November, and the outcry has been so bad they changed their plans. If they signed a deal for a Mack tower, since its a straight design, just about any other park could fit it. IMO my personal opinion is enthusiasts make up maybe 1% of the daily attendance at a park, so they don't really care what we think. At the same time trying to pass of a Mack Tower in place of KA was just a bad idea from the get-go, I don't think even the majority of the general attendance would be fooled.

But yet here they are digging footers. Which even if they decided for a different coaster type, they are starting with plenty of time for a 2026 debut.

I don't believe the reasons given for pushing back the ride given how much time is left. I am wondering with all the show cancellations across the chain, park closures ect, if they literally just can't afford the investment. As a small business owner I can tell you since around 2022 onwards business has been terrible, so it wouldn't shock me if Six Flags planned on 2026 and attendance has been so bad across the country they had to push it back to afford it. Or... they never intended for a 2026 opening, but why bother starting construction right now.
Something I definitely can’t see is them having decided this very recently. I think that this decision to push things back was made awhile ago. Part of me is really starting to believe that whatever we’re seeing construction of is for something completely different, part of whatever multi-year plan the chain claims they have for the park.

edit: 2026 always seemed like an almost fantasy-like scenario for a coaster like this. They couldn’t even get Flash open on time, and the idea of having a Ka replacement open on time just seems ridiculous.

Rapterra I believe starting construction in late 2023 and was actually nearly done by the time they announced it in 2024. Maybe this is one of those situations.
 
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Note: Completely unfounded conspiracy theory ahead.

I'm having real difficulty squaring the news from today with what has been happening on the ground. Even the largest coasters in the world don't need nearly two years of CONSTRUCTION time—yet we are already seeing footers (?!) being poured in July 2025 for what may be a 2027 coaster?! Makes zero sense to me.

Plus, we don't have an FAA waiver so they're likely not currently constructing something 200+ feet. A true Ka replacement, at least in my estimation, almost has to be the park's tallest coaster. It doesn't need to be a giga or a strata or anything, but I can't imagine the park marketing a successor to Ka that isn't taller than Nitro.

What if over the course of this season—a season where we have seen DRAMATIC budget cuts all across the chain—Six Flags Great Adventure's 2026 coaster was dramatically downsized—possibly down to even like family coaster scale—and that is what we're currently seeing work being done on now—not the Ka replacement.

If there is a smaller coaster project or other far-less-notable-than-Ka attraction now under construction (and on the verge of being announced within the next few weeks), it would 100% be in SFGAdv's best interest to yank the bandaid off now with a "the Ka replacement is delayed to some uncertain future time" to prep the news space for a "surprise," more "positive" announcement of a much less exciting coaster or other addition for 2026 which, ~ definitely is not ~ the Ka replacement.

In this scenario, there's a good chance SFGAdv isn't commiting to 2027 because they haven't even finalized the plans for a Ka replacement themselves yet. If something like this is true, I think there's a good chance the strata shuttle spinner fell through—and maybe the wording tweak in the new announcement provides even more tea leaves sorta pointing in this direction?
Now this is actually very interesting, and I have two more pieces of evidence to support this.

#1 is the upcoming ACE event that will tour the construction site. There’s no way this was done on a whim, corporate had to know there was a possibility that this happens. Why would Six Flags approve a tour of the construction site for a ride that was delayed indefinitely.

#2 is the footers, that’s been all everyone has been talking about this week. I’m no expert on footer shape, but if the rumors are true about these being Intamin footers it makes a lot more sense. I cannot see Six Flags working on a major thrill ride with Intamin for a long time, but a family coaster? Maybe. I know Six Flags New England’s coaster was unfortunately delayed, could see this being a situation similar to the Bat where Intamin, desperate to get back into the North American market again (as is apparent with the recent expansion of their Maryland facilities) gives Six Flags a good deal.

Is it a stretch? Maybe but I think there’s a good your conspiracy has some truth
 
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My guess as of right now is they knew for a while that the Ka replacement would be delayed (or potentially even scrapped for something else), so this is just gonna be something off the shelf to fill the Green Lantern plot. It's probably out there, but it wouldn't entirely surprise me if they were able to get their hands on another scrapped coaster and they're gonna use it for the Lantern plot.
 
Add this to my list of evidence, I’m slowly believing it myself. Intamin makes standard layouts for all their models, would assume it’s the same here.
This also explains why they decided to make the delay announcement, as to prevent people from thinking this family coaster would be the Ka replacement.

edit: fwiw, I also recall seeing a family coaster on the same GAdv survey the Mack spinner was featured in.
 
Note: Completely unfounded conspiracy theory ahead.

I'm having real difficulty squaring the news from today with what has been happening on the ground. Even the largest coasters in the world don't need nearly two years of CONSTRUCTION time—yet we are already seeing footers (?!) being poured in July 2025 for what may be a 2027 coaster?! Makes zero sense to me.

Plus, we don't have an FAA waiver so they're likely not currently constructing something 200+ feet. A true Ka replacement, at least in my estimation, almost has to be the park's tallest coaster. It doesn't need to be a giga or a strata or anything, but I can't imagine the park marketing a successor to Ka that isn't taller than Nitro.

What if over the course of this season—a season where we have seen DRAMATIC budget cuts all across the chain—Six Flags Great Adventure's 2026 coaster was dramatically downsized—possibly down to even like family coaster scale—and that is what we're currently seeing work being done on now—not the Ka replacement.

If there is a smaller coaster project or other far-less-notable-than-Ka attraction now under construction (and on the verge of being announced within the next few weeks), it would 100% be in SFGAdv's best interest to yank the bandaid off now with a "the Ka replacement is delayed to some uncertain future time" to prep the news space for a "surprise," more "positive" announcement of a much less exciting coaster or other addition for 2026 which, ~ definitely is not ~ the Ka replacement.

In this scenario, there's a good chance SFGAdv isn't commiting to 2027 because they haven't even finalized the plans for a Ka replacement themselves yet. If something like this is true, I think there's a good chance the strata shuttle spinner fell through—and maybe the wording tweak in the new announcement provides even more tea leaves sorta pointing in this direction?

It pretty clearly says in the email that a record breaking coaster is coming and construction on it has begun...so they are being upfront that the construction we are seeing is for the coaster they teased back in November as Ka's replacement.

Thinking about it more... it did just take them well over a year to make a simple shuttle coaster in Flash which was supposed to open in 2024. This might just be the reality of the industry right now... construction projects taking much longer because of external reasons.
 
It pretty clearly says in the email that a record breaking coaster is coming and construction on it has begun...so they are being upfront that the construction we are seeing is for the coaster they teased back in November as Ka's replacement.

Thinking about it more... it did just take them well over a year to make a simple shuttle coaster in Flash which was supposed to open in 2024. This might just be the reality of the industry right now... construction projects taking much longer because of external reasons.
Flash could have been ready to go by the end of last year but was purposely pushed back so it could open with the park in 2025. It’s not the reality of the industry. As far as what they said about the construction, nothing that they say can be taken at face value. Just look at anything they’ve put out over the last year. Details like that are never reliable and always subject to change
 
It pretty clearly says in the email that a record breaking coaster is coming and construction on it has begun...so they are being upfront that the construction we are seeing is for the coaster they teased back in November as Ka's replacement.

That's how I read it at first too but, to play devil's advocate, it can definitely be read either way.

Six Flags Great Adventure said:
You may know that we have a record-breaking roller coaster coming to the park and construction has begun!

Are both sides of the "and" talking about the "record-breaking coaster" or are they simply citing two data-points re: future park development broadly that they have confirmed publicly previously (that there's a record-breaking coaster in the works AND there is construction on a new project underway).

Totally agree that most people will read it the first way, but either can be true I think.
 
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This also explains why they decided to make the delay announcement, as to prevent people from thinking this family coaster would be the Ka replacement.

edit: fwiw, I also recall seeing a family coaster on the same GAdv survey the Mack spinner was featured in.
Yes there was a family coaster described in enough detail to know it can't run 2 trains, an absolutely horrible choice. AND an amazing sounding dark ride that may well have gotten the most votes considering they already had a 400' coaster at the time of the poll. Which may be why they now have no 400' coasters. Has anyone checked to see if these footers could be for a large building?

Is there any way they could complete the Toro renovation in one year instead? It's terrible right now.

As to the FAA, I wonder if Ka is a useful landmark. If the Coast Guard lost a lighthouse, there would be no objection to a new one, hurry up.
 
Something I definitely can’t see is them having decided this very recently. I think that this decision to push things back was made awhile ago. Part of me is really starting to believe that whatever we’re seeing construction of is for something completely different, part of whatever multi-year plan the chain claims they have for the park.

edit: 2026 always seemed like an almost fantasy-like scenario for a coaster like this. They couldn’t even get Flash open on time, and the idea of having a Ka replacement open on time just seems ridiculous.

Rapterra I believe starting construction in late 2023 and was actually nearly done by the time they announced it in 2024. Maybe this is one of those situations.
The email states "You may know that we have a record-breaking roller coaster coming to the park and construction has begun!" which leads me to believe the construction we are seeing is for the record-breaking coaster.

If this coaster gets pushed to 2027, I imagine they will need to do something for 2026... even if it's an area refresh and some flat rides. I will say some of the wording in that email is kind of cryptic and hard to decipher, and maybe that was intentional but at this point, I think it is in Great Adventure's best interest to be transparent.
 
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The email states "You may know that we have a record-breaking roller coaster coming to the park and construction has begun!" which leads me to believe the construction we are seeing is for the record-breaking coaster.

If this coaster gets pushed to 2027, I imagine they will need to do something for 2026... even if it's an area refresh and some flat rides. I will say some of the wording in that email is kind of cryptic and hard to decipher, and maybe that was intentional but at this point, I think it is in Great Adventure's best interest to be transparent.
It totally is in their best interest but when has this company actually acted in Great Adventures best interest since the merger? I can’t think of one point where they did
 
111 foot Surf Coaster with 2 inversions. Perfecto.
A surf coaster would be nice with the boardwalk, but saw this before and will say again, imagine a tilt coaster like Siren’s Curse next to Superman? Would be wonders for guests driving into the park and the GP, along with a good replacement for GL and GASM. With all the power and electrical markers, seems more feasible than just for the new 2026-27 coaster?
 
I would love a showstopper coaster like a Tilt in GL's spot to bring that wow factor back to the parking lot. Siren's Curse would have worked rather well there...

Superman has done an admirable job of surprising onlookers with its vehicle angling, but inexplicably (and I don't know how temporary or permanent this is), they recently cut the view of that significantly by planting around the fenceline.
 

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