Reimagining Darkoaster

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I have had this idea for a while but what if the replace the straddle coaster train with custom intamin spinning trains that look like sleighs if they do that it would fit the ride better because this ride has massive potential for theming this may sound like a crazy idea but here it goes.

In the preshow area it tells the Darkastle story but with more details than the plack in the queue and incorporates the storm theme

When the ride begins it will be the same as usual but the station will be a LOT darker and dimly lit the ride will have the same track but with the new trains in the beginning the archways turn frozen as Ludwig says in a heavy German accent "it seems you come to tour my castle now don't get any frostbite" suddenly two animatronic stone wolves lunge at you with blue cold mist and attempt to bite you sleigh than after passing lightning with real snow machines the coaster swops through crumbleing castle tower before flying through an archway NOT A PROJECTION but a real archway than you pass through a castle arch way that freezes before your eyes as King Ludwig says "how ICE of you stop by" as you launch than you enter a misty ice cavern full of ice crystals as the ice demons pop up as Ludwig says "say hello to my old friends turns out he has possessed the guests and they are cursed then you pass through the arch and he says "think you can escape this easily for you and now in SHAMBLES" as the castle towers collapse how the effect works is that there will be a tower that moves and smoke appears than you take the second lap as he says " it's time to lighting things up a massive bolt appears and the cars start spinning than he says "this is a Shock" as blue thunder appears and he says "time to FACE my wrath he attempts to eat you and a massive wall projection of lighting and a hand appears than you reach the arch way where the wolves jump on your vehicle and attack you than you return to the station the ride will be called "Darkastle the storm of fright"
 
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Spinning sounds like fun. What if the first round is lightning though, and the second round is “spinning” on the ice?
 
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Honestly imo had it been given a more cohesive theme to begin with, it would be 100x better and wouldn't need any of the stuff you talked about. I wish they had just picked 1 theme and stuck with it, but instead it's got the "escape the storm" theme, a weird skiing theme throughout the queue, a condemned castle theme in the queue, an ice castle theme on the outside, a frozen in time theme, and a ghost theme. Plus Ludwig is there just for the hell of it I guess. The entire current theme makes 0 sense, and I don't know how the park thought it would be a good idea at all.
 
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Shew would I take spinning cars on DarKoaster in a heartbeat. You could not find those “snowmobiles” in the trash any sooner if the option was available to me 😂
 
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CoasterAuditor said:
Shew would I take spinning cars on DarKoaster in a heartbeat. You could not find those “snowmobiles” in the trash any sooner if the option was available to me 😂
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Absolutely, a 2nd round spinning would have even made the crappy theming less of an issue.
 
I like the idea of spinning cars. We'll have the Williamsburg counterpart to Tampa's Cobra's Curse. And, would the regular seating help lower the minimum height?
 
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Crazy how a brand new coaster based on a well-liked in-house IP already has people thinking about how it could be improved. What better way can it be summed up how far BGW has fallen.

I still haven't ridden the thing, don't intend to. It would only bother me. I know it is over-dramatic, but DK has childhood nostalgia for me since it was my first real ride at BGW when I was young. Started my love for EVO dark rides and appreciation for the quirky original IPs that occur when you put a couple small time creatives in a room together. Big difference between honest creativity and when people are given a task to fulfill with the wrong motivation.
 
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The reasoning Ice gave for not riding DarKoaster is almost the mirror opposite of my long-standing grievance against Verbolten while having never ridden the Wolf: "This ride is barely mid, and what came before it must have been so much better if people still miss it to this very day" for me versus "I loved what was there before, I do not want to ride its replacement for my judgment will be forever biased against it" which I seem to be getting from that post.
 
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SLC Headache said:
The reasoning Ice gave for not riding DarKoaster is almost the mirror opposite of my long-standing grievance against Verbolten while having never ridden the Wolf: "This ride is barely mid, and what came before it must have been so much better if people still miss it to this very day" for me versus "I loved what was there before, I do not want to ride its replacement for my judgment will be forever biased against it" which I seem to be getting from that post.
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Pretty much, yes. I know it is opinionated and emotionally-driven, but I know I won't like the ride as much since I am bias. Nothing wrong with that, not like I am the decider of objective standard. Sharing opinion, as are we all.

Though I think it is fair to say it is an objectively worse ride from a theming perspective, which is the main thing I personally care about. Partially due to the ride type. Coasters are inherently difficult to make "immersive" in my opinion, only one I have had the luxury of riding that I think really immerses you is Tron since that is darn close to what it would feel like to actually do those things. Haven't had the opportunity to ride Hagrid's, though I suspect does a decent job as well. Guardians was close.

I can empathize with your grievances towards Verbolten but in my case with Horizons, I am permanently bothered that it is gone even though I never got to ride it. Therefore I take it out on Mission Space (which I also refuse to ride, since bad).
 
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I think in some cases the best thing a park can do when an iconic ride or beloved ride is done for - just go the complete opposite way.

Repurposing a building or station or playing homage to the original is a lose lose situation.

And I can only speak personally - I’m not a fan of judging a new ride based on what was there before. Judge the ride based on what it is. DKoaster is a hoot of a kid friendly coaster. It’s not DKastle but nothing will be. I feel the same way on VB vs BBW and Horiz vs MS.

This would be like bemoaning HMMB because it’s not DD. That’s not fair to Hagrids.
 
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warfelg said:
I think in some cases the best thing a park can do when an iconic ride or beloved ride is done for - just go the complete opposite way.

Repurposing a building or station or playing homage to the original is a lose lose situation.

And I can only speak personally - I’m not a fan of judging a new ride based on what was there before. Judge the ride based on what it is. DKoaster is a hoot of a kid friendly coaster. It’s not DKastle but nothing will be. I feel the same way on VB vs BBW and Horiz vs MS.

This would be like bemoaning HMMB because it’s not DD. That’s not fair to Hagrids.
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In the case of Verbolten, the sheer intensity they packed puts the ride in a higher weight class of thrills than the remaining Arrow Suspended coasters I've ridden. I'd consider it going "the complete opposite way".

I rode DarKastle in its final year and was still impressed, still the best dark ride I've ever ridden since I haven't done Disney/Universal yet. With DarKastle gone, actually all of my candidates for number 1 dark ride are coaster hybrids (Wonder Mountain's Guardian at Canada's Wonderland and Black Diamond at Knoebels), if not just fully enclosed coasters (Dark Knight at Great Adventure and Exterminator at Kennywood).

I still haven't made it back to BGW, but I will judge DarKoaster against other fully enclosed coasters - the aforementioned Dark Knight and Exterminator, and Laff Trakk at Hersheypark.
 
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Ice said:
Though I think it is fair to say it is an objectively worse ride from a theming perspective, which is the main thing I personally care about.
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While I think DarKoaster is fine (doesn't move the needle for me one way or another), I think where the park fumbled the ball is where they just assume everyone knows the lore of DK and just kind of goes with the loose theming. Like, there's this weird reference to DK that is obvious but also attempted to be subtle at the same time, with only a plaque type of thing on the wall of the castle explaining the past in a way that would get people to somewhat understand what's going on. For those who have not ridden DK, this ride doesn't make a lot of sense other than insinuating you're on some ghost hunt and run into Ludwig. If they had maybe released more media to set up the ride and the modern story of the new ride, I think it would go a long way in making this less murky.

Those of us who enjoyed DK can find reasons to enjoy DarKoaster, though there's some degree of separation that has to occur because of how drastically different the story of Ludwig is approached by the two rides.
 
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What if they expand the Darkastle building into the Oktoberfest EPL and bring back Darkastle with darkoaster elements
 
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