I’m back and i wanted to return with a bang. What do you think each of the Cedar Fair parks need next? It could be a coaster, a flat ride, or anything else you’d like to see.
What every Cedar Fair park needs
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Knott's Berry Farm, Canada's Wonderland, California's Great America, Valleyfair, Worlds of Fun, and Michigan's Adventure: My First Visit
Kings Dominion, Carowinds, Kings Island, Cedar Point, and Dorney Park: My Next Visit.
oh you meant rides....ummm whatever the focus groups say will make them more money to build whatever the next star coaster is.
Kings Dominion, Carowinds, Kings Island, Cedar Point, and Dorney Park: My Next Visit.
oh you meant rides....ummm whatever the focus groups say will make them more money to build whatever the next star coaster is.
KBF - Nothing. It’s perfect as is IMO.
CW - Retheming to the level KD is getting.
CGA - Thoughts and Prayers.
VF - CGAs RMC.
WoF - Everything else from CGA.
MA - A nice midsize woodie feels right.
DP - They need a modern full-size woodie from GCI. Badly.
KD - An invert/wing/flying coaster in Volcanos plot.
KI - I’ve been thinking about a Iron Son of Beast by RMC and how that would be the crème de le crème of an awesome collection for the park.
CW/CP - They need their Hurler clones RMCd, but a twist would be to make an extended Twisted Timbers family. Keep the layouts and change the heights and elements.
CW - Retheming to the level KD is getting.
CGA - Thoughts and Prayers.
VF - CGAs RMC.
WoF - Everything else from CGA.
MA - A nice midsize woodie feels right.
DP - They need a modern full-size woodie from GCI. Badly.
KD - An invert/wing/flying coaster in Volcanos plot.
KI - I’ve been thinking about a Iron Son of Beast by RMC and how that would be the crème de le crème of an awesome collection for the park.
CW/CP - They need their Hurler clones RMCd, but a twist would be to make an extended Twisted Timbers family. Keep the layouts and change the heights and elements.
More than a new ride, I think KI desperately needs the aesthetic treatment KD has gotten in the past decade (especially in 2022). Compared to KD, the park is just so devoid of charm, theming, shade, interesting landscaping, etc. Their revamped International Street does look magnificent (and is hopefully a sign of things to come), but I don’t understand why they overhauled their already most impressive area when large swaths of the park are an unfortunate mix of concrete, chain restaurants, barren walkways, and sad Paramount-era leftovers (Action Zone in particular).
Looking at old photos and videos, you can clearly see how much charm KI used to have. Today, its coaster collection is pretty great and I don’t deny that it’s a world-class park, but at the end of the day it just has that feel of a generic corporate amusement park in my opinion. I’d love for KI to follow the lead of its little sister in Virginia and focus on bringing the old magic back to the park.
Looking at old photos and videos, you can clearly see how much charm KI used to have. Today, its coaster collection is pretty great and I don’t deny that it’s a world-class park, but at the end of the day it just has that feel of a generic corporate amusement park in my opinion. I’d love for KI to follow the lead of its little sister in Virginia and focus on bringing the old magic back to the park.
I personally think that either KI, CP, or Carowinds should get the next coaster in the chain. As KD just got one this year.
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KD’s was just a replacement for a flat, maybe in 2-3 years the volcano plot will see some action
I guess if I were to contribute what coaster model I think each park needs:
CP: Gerstlauer Infinity
KI: Mack Launch
Caro: GCI
KD: Mack Launch or any B&M except Floorless preferably not an invert or dive.
Knotts: B&M Mega (Hyper or Giga)
Canadas Wonderland: Mack Launch
Dorney Park: GCI or Gravity Group, if the shuttle happens honestly perfect
WOF: A large B&M of any kind
Valleyfair: A large B&M of any kind
Michigan's Adventure: yes
CGA: If it wasn't closing I'd say a B&M Hyper.
CP: Gerstlauer Infinity
KI: Mack Launch
Caro: GCI
KD: Mack Launch or any B&M except Floorless preferably not an invert or dive.
Knotts: B&M Mega (Hyper or Giga)
Canadas Wonderland: Mack Launch
Dorney Park: GCI or Gravity Group, if the shuttle happens honestly perfect
WOF: A large B&M of any kind
Valleyfair: A large B&M of any kind
Michigan's Adventure: yes
CGA: If it wasn't closing I'd say a B&M Hyper.
Coasterguy95
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KD wouldn’t get the invert or dive, since that is just going to be seen as copying bgw. Even if this is off topic, I pray to god cedar fair works with Intamin again, they could make some amazing things.
KD and CoW desperately need Hold-my-beer Intamins but it'll never happen.
KD needs a launched Axis in Volcano's plot (or a Vekoma/S&S invert/flying) - Joe Draves needs to design it
Dorney needs a Gravity Group
CP needs some common sense in their management to make the park more enjoyable
KD needs a launched Axis in Volcano's plot (or a Vekoma/S&S invert/flying) - Joe Draves needs to design it
Dorney needs a Gravity Group
CP needs some common sense in their management to make the park more enjoyable
KD - more shows and entertainment. They are on the right track, but have so much potential and opportunity. Do this in conjunction with densifying rides in the park.
Dorney - a business strategy that makes sense given their location and competition
CP - grow into the destination park they really are - i.e. restaurants, shopping, vacation packages, etc
Dorney - a business strategy that makes sense given their location and competition
CP - grow into the destination park they really are - i.e. restaurants, shopping, vacation packages, etc
I’ve thought about this for some time, and while I’m a fan of it, I think it’s going to be so incredibly difficult for them.
Just thinking of the peninsula area first:
Employee Parking and Dorms - That’s tough to move and would be one great area to do a marina like area with some shops and restaurants. But if they would be willing to move it to the mainland they could.
The Campgrounds - IMO this is just killing them and almost impossible to move at this point. That’s going to have to stay.
The Old Hotel (blanking on the name) - This should go to extending the water park or making a second more high thrill Water park. I know that sounds like beating a dead horse. Or better, relocate the Soak City parking there, and then use current Soak City parking to expand the water park with a heavily themed centerpiece. Most realistic though is put a high cost new hotel back there and offer some things to do on the water (boating, jet ski’s, things like that).
I’ve also enjoyed this thought lately too: What if the new Beach Pavilion were to become a new gate? Build out a boardwalk from the parking lot (more to come on that) to be the entry plaza. You could put shops and game stands along it. Then take everything from Matterhorn to the beach, to the south end of Planet Snoopy to the beach, and you have a 3rd gate that would be a kids park. If they reworked the backstage by Gatekeeper, they can make it a more open entry with a nice plaza for Gatekeeper while doing this.
Lastly you take some of the parking lot to make a Downtown Disney/City Walk like area into the parks land area. What you can do is make parking on the peninsula be premium parking at an up charged rate to be there for VIP, while making parking on the mainland be cheaper and you get shuttled to the park from there. Put two value hotels on the mainland for this as well.
Interesting enough, most of the hotels and restaurants on the mainland near the causeway are owned and operated by CP. Easy way to tell when I last visited was that all my receipts had CP in the merchant name spaces in addition to the actual brand (cheap hotel - quality inn or econolodge maybe, quaker steak, etc.).
So though they could certainly move things around and redevelop to include a city walk experience, technically they already have it... Just not as upscale.
So though they could certainly move things around and redevelop to include a city walk experience, technically they already have it... Just not as upscale.
I'll say one thing on Carowinds: 1 of: a log flume, rapids, or other water ride. That just feels insane they don't have any of those now. Would be a GREAT park for a power splash or something along those lines.