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Yes Zimmy. My flashlight gets dropped constantly. It has even done a few laps around the inside of a CNC lathe. The protective glass on the face of it is gone, exposing it to the elements. But I cannot simply replace a bulb. I'm wondering if this is why the wolf eye LED's have not been replaced yet. It just isn't simple?
 
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OMG THE LIGHTBULB THREAD!

For reference, this began in the Verbolten thread when user phareous mentioned that he or she noticed a lot of burned-out bulbs at Busch Gardens Williamsburg. This observation spurred me to reveal my hatred of compact fluorescent bulbs, which then began a fascinating string of light-bulb-related comments from various users. This illuminating conversation was sadly squelched by the joy-killing powers of Parkfans KD Manager Evan. Alpenghöst made a valiant attempt to exorcise the meddling moderator, but the damage was done.

But now Mazakman has heroically started this, the light-bulb thread, wherein you shall be able to sate your appetite for lamp-based conversation without the interference of pesky moderators!
 

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LEDs have no charm to them compared to their elder kin. I miss the incandescent chaser lights that used to run wild around a lot of the older parks in the country, those really looked nice. They made boardwalks really look like a boardwalk and were a huge chunk of their identity besides the salty air and smell of funnel cake.

Also on another note, Cree LEDs are some of the best ones you can buy right now.
 
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Zachary said:
This thread name = The best thread name

Seconded!

Zachary said:
In all seriousness, Vbolt's wolf eye problem is not as simple as it seems. I'll try to get permission to release more info.

Thank you! I'd love to know the details. I've searched for a long time for a "lights on" view of the Verbolten event building because I'd love to know how that works. I've long suspected that it can't be easy to maintain the 3 different ride experiences, especially if it involves any mechanical components. Any information you're able to release would be appreciated.
 
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On another note some LEDs are stupidly easy to replace on rides, and some actually require a special tool in order to replace. It's not really about difficulty of replacement that makes upkeep so difficult, it's actually price. It seems to me Verbolten's 'eyes' problem stems from a lack of budget in order to replace the bulbs, combine that with the facts that LEDs ARE NOT CHEAP and the fact that the majority of any park's maintenace budget is focused on just keeping the rides running and you end up with this kind of situation.

Let's not forget that this could also fall in a dispute between BGW's maintenance and rides departments. Considering rides will be adding a new coaster and maintenance will be budgeting for that new coaster and you have a whole new monster to play with for next year, too. Which leads me to believe the issue will stand for quite some time until it gets addressed.
 

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The sets inside Bolt are cheaply made. (I saw this in the tour) It is entirely possible that they did the stupid thing and hard wired the LEDs to a perf board instead of using a burn base. I do not know why they would do this very stupid thing given the environment the LED is going to be exposed to but then again, London Rocks.

Speaking of lighting. I saw that... that... I don't have the words... lighting design disaster today. Perhaps this thread is the right place for my thoughts on the technical... abomination, that is LR.

as a teaser.... I have 1 words for that show... "Lack of balance" okay, that was 3, but you get my point.
 
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Saying a lighting design done by a tony award winner is crap.(Nominated 7 times) Ha..
 
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^ Robert Wilson doesn't have a Tony. Stanley McCandless never won a Tony. What's your point? That one has to win awards to have an opinion?
 
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^ Robert Wilson doesn't have a Tony. Stanley McCandless never won a Tony. What's your point? That one has to win awards to have an opinion?


The person who designed the lighting...has a tony

Show some respect for a decent look on a crappy budget
 
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Consider who has won Tony's and who has not. The Tony awards have little to do with the quality of ones work. Broadway is more political then Hollywood.


Jon,
I am glad you brought up ole Stanley McCandless.

Incidentally, I believe Ming Cho Lee won a Tony...
Now I did not go to Yale, so I was not trained by him directly however I was trained by one of his disciples...

I can promise you he would call that interior crap.
 
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^ A crappy budget? "London Rocks" cost millions of dollars. "Decent" is not good enough for millions of dollars, or for a Tony Award winner, in my opinion.
 
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^ A crappy budget? "London Rocks" cost millions of dollars. "Decent" is not good enough for millions of dollars, or for a Tony Award winner, in my opinion.

You obviously know nothing about london rocks. :p
 
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Zimmy said:
Consider who has won Tony's and who has not.  The Tony awards have little to do with the quality of ones work.  Broadway is more political then Hollywood.


Jon,
I am glad you brought up ole Stanley McCandless.  

Incidentally, I believe Ming Cho Lee won a Tony...
Now I did not go to Yale, so I was not trained by him directly however I was trained by one of his disciples...

I can promise you he would call that interior crap.

I agree that it's hugely political, but to say it has little to do about the quality of their work is dumb. Would you prefer that london rocks be a flash and trash?
 

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I am not going to go down the rabbit hole here, however I will say that the instrument use on that design is poor. The show had no technical balance and execution was sloppy at best. Second drop (I don't know what baton because I have never been back stage) but the full stage, bottom tripped drop, was used effectively once, during the wedding. The rest of the time it just hung there or worse draped on the floor. The first drop needed its lines trimmed like no ones business. That is the stage managers fault. They should catch that on walk through... No more I am going to do a full write up when I force myself to sit through it a second time with a note pad.
 
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I agree that it's hugely political, but to say it has little to do about the quality of their work is dumb.  Would you prefer that london rocks be a flash and trash?

I would prefer that they not spend their money hiring Tony award winners just so they can say they did it. The odds are it was shopped out to interns anyway.

I would prefer that they do what they used to do. Let design students at Universities compete. I would prefer that they hire college kids again for their talent. I would prefer that they quit wasting money paying for Union Card Designers and Actors just so they can say they hired from NYC.

They are doing the students in the great Commonwealth a disservice.
 
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^ The snobbery factor of "OH WE HIRED NYC PEOPLE!" really bothered me, and I say this as a NYC snob. There are extremely talented people in VA, students and otherwise, that have been involved with these shows for decades. Suddenly they're not good enough?
 
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