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b.mac

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The only way I could think of something like this happening is that the train in the station was either advancing into the station and getting ready to unload or loaded and ready to dispatch, and the train behind it kept moving due to an error in the computer system. The drive tires only function to advance the train in or back the train into transfer, if a train is already in the station it should've stopped.

In the picture the combs (floors) are not fully up, which lends credence to the idea that the train that was in the station was either unloading or ready to dispatch. If the trains collided it was probably at simple advancement speed which was only a few mph. This is based on the guests riding the train that collided saying they were originally stopped. The only way this sort of incident could've happened was a programming oversight and the right conditions were satisfied in order for it to happen. I have not heard good things about Valravn's programming from anyone who was involved with the ride its inaugural season and Cedar Point has a noted history of slightly modifying their rides in order to try and increase capacity, so I figure this incident was a matter of time coming.

Train collisions happen more commonly than you may think, they usually happen when guests are not present during safety checks. There's a reason why most trains come with padded bumpers, the manufacturers and parks know this.

TL;DR - Serious, but not major incident happened that likely was the fault of perfect conditions and possibly a programming oversight.

PSS - When Cedar Fair rumors ramp up for 2020 and beyond I'll elaborate a little further on what this means for Cedar Fair and B&M.
 

Jonesta6

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Is there a possibility that components in the drive mechanisms failed in such a way that the wheel drive wheels were able to rotate freely?

Unless I'm mistaken, that section of track is tilted slightly downhill so that if there was no further braking mechanism on a train at a dead stop the train would start rolling downhill.

Granted if that was the case then the speed would have been minimal but the repairs would also require some quick parts changes and not a ride computer overhaul.
 

b.mac

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The drive motors themselves are naturally resistant to any sort of movement unless electrical current runs through them, the only realistic way they'd permit a train to skid through is if the tires were worn out and it was raining or if the tires got snapped off by the train going over them. The brakes themselves on B&Ms are designed to close whenever pressure is lost, so if there was any failure in the physical brakes on Valravn it would've stopped the train instead of letting it collide into the station.

The ride computer overhaul likely won't even happen until the off-season. If anything whatever damage may have been caused will get fixed, Ohio Inspectors will be called in to watch the ride cycle and recertify it, and it'll reopen like nothing even happened. They had Steel Vengeance up and running within the same day when the "bump" happened last year.
 
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Question to anyone who understands the mechanics behind coasters (which I don't): what prevented them from raising the floors, causing them to have to bring in emergency flooring?
 

Jonesta6

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It was a chaotic post to decipher, from what I could tell they were referencing bringing in the emergency floor to remove riders from the transfer track and not in the actual station. Of course, I could be totally wrong.

If I'm not mistaken however, the station combs (floor) wouldn't be able to rise unless the train is in perfect alignment with the sensors that indicate the train and floor line up. If they don't line up perfectly, either piece may become damaged and prevent the ride from operating. This is a guess based upon looking at how there's an incredibly slim amount of space between Griffon's trains and combs, and that Valravn is also a B&M Dive Machine so it operates similarly.

** For the record I have ridden both, but only a handful of times on Valravn so my memory of the exact station layout isn't as good as it Griffon.
 
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