Tilikum is Dying
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Mixed feelings on this. He clearly shouldn't be suffering and it's gross that PETA is using his suffering to capitalize on their agenda. On the other hand, he is old and is a product from a darker time of animals in captivty. He could use some rest.
It seems to me that with all the trainer deaths he has been involved in that Karma has finally caught up with him.
The Hessian said:
I wouldn't exactly consider the slow, disease-ridden death of an animal who was involved with the death of one trainer to be karma. He didn't know any better. I don't think the universe is so cruel.
I'd personally prefer it if he appeared in the sky alongside a bowl of petunias. That's a much more graceful death.
I don't like the fact he is dying the way he is either but your argument could also be applied to dogs who attack people and don't know better and yet they get put down all the time without any second chances or chance at rehabilitation.
The Hessian said:
An animal did what animals do and it deserves a slow painful death? Really?
Actually, that is exactly what you said. You said this disease is karma.
Alright hold on let me make my point clear I said the fact that it is dying is Karma not the way its was dying Karma and in my opinion if anything has to die I'd prefer it to be nice and peaceful.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I find is appalling to say that he deserves to die, regardless of how.
The Hessian said:
Go eat your own genitals.
The deaths related to the whale are a result of an alpha predator with prior abuse history simply snapping. It isn't human, it can't go to a therapist, it can't take some antidepressants, it is a wild fucking animal that acts like one. It shouldn't "deserve" to die for acting on what it's nature is.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone but I was attacked and nearly kid by my Grandma's dog as a kid and I still have scars of that event, hence my opinion on this whole thing.
Clearly you are better than a wild animal simply wanting death for anything that slights you or anyone else.
Imagine what Tilikum will think when he looks back at this thread from whale heaven.
This isn't what needs to be said about a poor, sweet, mistreated orca who suffered a tough life of mistreatment. At least he is spending what are potentially his final days in the care of the trainers who love him.
This isn't what needs to be said about a poor, sweet, mistreated orca who suffered a tough life of mistreatment. At least he is spending what are potentially his final days in the care of the trainers who love him.
Quite badly, unfortunately. Of course, none of that mistreatment occurred at SeaWorld.
But Tilikum is one of SeaWorld's few orcas who were captured from the wild (again, not by SeaWorld), meaning he really was victim of the oft-overplayed "ripped from his family" event.
He then moved to Sea Land, a poorly-run marine park in Canada, where he lived in an enclosure that really was only slightly larger than his body. He was constantly under attack by the other, aggressive orcas in the pool, and he was quickly alienated the bottom of the social rank. In a sense, Sea Land was everything PETA wants to make SeaWorld out to be.
The horrid conditions he endured during his days at Sea Land are said to have put an emotional scare on Tilikum, causing him to be unpredictable and unsure of how to act and restrain himself around humans.
In fact, some experts think that Tilikum was not attacking Dawn Brancheau when he killed her in 2010, but rather attempting to play with her. He grabbed her by her hair, not her arm or leg, and thrashed her around like a toy. This, again, shows how Tilikum simply did not, and does not, understand how to behave around humans, as he never grew up with proper exposure to them like his captive-bred neighbors.
I don't have the resources with me to provide links to my source material, but simply Googling "Tilikum" opens a treasure trove of information.
This is a very sad turn of events indeed. Hopefully Tilikum will be with Ms. Brancheau again someday.
But Tilikum is one of SeaWorld's few orcas who were captured from the wild (again, not by SeaWorld), meaning he really was victim of the oft-overplayed "ripped from his family" event.
He then moved to Sea Land, a poorly-run marine park in Canada, where he lived in an enclosure that really was only slightly larger than his body. He was constantly under attack by the other, aggressive orcas in the pool, and he was quickly alienated the bottom of the social rank. In a sense, Sea Land was everything PETA wants to make SeaWorld out to be.
The horrid conditions he endured during his days at Sea Land are said to have put an emotional scare on Tilikum, causing him to be unpredictable and unsure of how to act and restrain himself around humans.
In fact, some experts think that Tilikum was not attacking Dawn Brancheau when he killed her in 2010, but rather attempting to play with her. He grabbed her by her hair, not her arm or leg, and thrashed her around like a toy. This, again, shows how Tilikum simply did not, and does not, understand how to behave around humans, as he never grew up with proper exposure to them like his captive-bred neighbors.
I don't have the resources with me to provide links to my source material, but simply Googling "Tilikum" opens a treasure trove of information.
This is a very sad turn of events indeed. Hopefully Tilikum will be with Ms. Brancheau again someday.
The Hessian said:
Bad enough that he tried to defend himself.
I'm sorry you were bitten. The difference here is that you are a human with cognition and speech. You can learn to adapt and understand why you were snapped out. While the whale has cognition, all he knows is that the humans he trusts to help him, love him, and take care of him were hurting him. You can not have a conversation with him and tell him, that it was just one or two jack holes, no he is forced, by survival instinct alone to generalize.
If you feel like you are being attacked now, consider what you wrote. Go back and re-read it. Perhaps you meant something else and did not articulate it well. Consider being a bit more thoughtful in your writing in the future.