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I think it’s something I’ve found from people who work at parks (higher up) that higher prices don’t get looked at as classism since raising rates means they can make the park safer from a hiring and implementing security measures. While I have an issue with people who get up in arms about low pricing, I do also take issue with calling it classism. Daily admission for Knott’s (for those that don’t know) are $69, and if there were any local discounts going on it’s even lower. Just because I was interested, SFMM is $84. Pacific Park (Santa Monica) is $40 for fall smaller area. Disneyland, interestingly, is $100 for residents (looks like $76 for out of state). Universal resident is $104. So I would say in this case that Knott’s low price does make it attractive as an option and I don’t feel it would be classism at all to say they should be $80.
When used in the context of literally keeping people away I don't see how you can't call it classism..... The motivation is literally to keep "less desireables" out by raising the price to a point that they can't afford. To be clear, I'm not saying that raising prices is always classism -- it very rarely is IMHO..... but in this context, it's hard to argue that it's not.
This is a whole different thing..... and it's not even about raising rates, it's about changing the structure of things. I know it's not what you're saying but your statement could be interpreted as you saying that people who are poor are out to game the system and default. Closing loopholes isn't classism either....
Sure, that happens..... but yet that could be resolved by some different rules and requirements. Regardless, this isn't everyone that is of a lower income that is doing this..... It's not fair to punish those that are being honest and respectful because some people ruin things. Hell, if you really want to dive into this I could say that wealthy people who complain about stupid shit and delay lines and stuff could be just as annoying..... Not that I'm trying to make that argument but I'm just saying that it's not like there's a "perfect" class of people.
I don't understand how this isn't classism..... too many people so we raise the price and punish those that make less money. That's really not a fair thing to do.
I don't know if this post is what sparked the forum etiquette post but the more it weighs on my thoughts I feel like it is since the conversation just dropped and didn't continue. Unless I add some mindset I don't think I'm going to have a clear head for the rest of the day. In my reply I tried very hard to be calm and open ended without speaking in absolutes but the truth is the OP really did hit me in a way that I feel like many people in this entire community don't seem to grasp. It is absolutely hurtful to me that people look at the lower class as a problem. It seems like most people that gather in enthusiast forums have the means to go to parks whenever they want and get season passes to wherever they feel like. I grew up never knowing what a season pass felt like.... hell, I barely got to go to amusement parks when I was younger. It wasn't anyone's fault.... my dad was nearly killed in a motorcycle accident (only had 10% chance of living) when I was 5 years old. My family basically survived on my dad's disability and my mom's low paying job. My family could have chose to be bitter about the person who pulled out in front of my dad but we weren't.... I was raised to respect people and understand that accidents happen. Aside from maybe a trip to Kennywood or Geauga Lake once or twice a year there were a few times we had a "big" vacation to Cedar Point. My roller coasters in my younger days were me riding my bike around our yard which had some pretty steep hills and just pretending that that was the coaster. I never even dreamed that one day I would be able to visit the parks that I have and, truth be told, it's still not the easiest thing to just go to a park. I watch conversations like this play out about how the lower class are a problem and that prices should be raised to keep problems out but all I keep asking myself is what did my family do wrong? Why are we the people that needed to be kept away from the parks -- we never jumped in line, we followed all the rules, we were respectful to everyone..... can you even imagine how much of a joy it was for us to be able to be at that park?
I don't see it as classism at all - it's basic capitalism. If the ticket prices are too low than the park becomes overcrowded and problems occur. By raising the prices either people can't afford it or it's not worth the cost to them. And it doesn't mean that a teenager from a family that wouldn't necessarily be able to afford an increase in ticket prices is behind the violence. We're seeing all kinds of violence across the economic spectrum in high schools. You could argue it's the rich kids with their sense of entitlement that think they can get away with anything that are the ones cutting lines and starting fights.
As I said, in almost all cases that prices are increased it's not classism but when you are specifically doing it to keep "unruly" people out then you are literally saying that the lower class guests are the ones causing all the problems (this is different than raising costs to keep the quantity of people down which is supply in demand).
