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Ah, yes. they way they edited that video it looks like it launches. Tricky.

Though going up that vertical-ish lift would still be cool.
It's S&S, so I'm guessing you will see a launch model at some point. Though technically, the only real world example is launched...
 
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I thought all the 2020 new coasters were already all announced already. Is there some new 2020 coaster we are still waiting to find out any details about?
 
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Somebody posted this in a crude way on reddit, but I think it's an obvious concern, which I'll put this way. What happens when a row only has one rider? Isn't it going to be off-kilter? So does that mean they won't allow single riders in a row and, furthermore, not two riders with a significant difference in weight? That seems problematic, unless they have some means to balance the cars regardless of riders?
 
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And that Get Smart reference. I mean that's a terrible name for a roller coaster element, but I still appreciate it! You go through an s-curve and then a missed it by that much.
 

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Guessing this is an attempt to sell and not necessarily indicative anyone is going to be getting one?
 
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Guessing this is an attempt to sell and not necessarily indicative anyone is going to be getting one?

I think so.
Random: But there seems to be so much hate for bloggers/vloggers at IIAPA events like this saying that they “aren’t the industry and this is just for the parks”. Saw a bit of backpack to it if they wouldn’t be there without them. Funniest one I saw was “what’s wrong, park forget to get you tickets?”
 
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I misread that, thought you were saying there were issues with attractions manufacturers being there.

Media, even bloggers and vloggers, is just a way to boost visibility and help highlight new attractions and concepts being shown off - all good as long as they're being respectful of their position - reporting, not buying or selling.
 
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I feel like this coaster concept lends itself extremely well to a compact indoor layout with theming. A little darkness could make the sensations this can produce extremely exciting.

BBW tribute in the DK building 👀
I've long said I want a MysteryMine style Eurofighter in/around DK but an Axis would also be intriguing.
 

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I feel like this coaster concept lends itself extremely well to a compact indoor layout with theming. A little darkness could make the sensations this can produce extremely exciting.

BBW tribute in the DK building 👀

I mean, they already technically own the rights to the Arrow technologies and whatnot, and they did give their concept cars a specifically unique colored trim reminiscent of a certain suspended swinging coaster...
 

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I feel like this coaster concept lends itself extremely well to a compact indoor layout with theming. A little darkness could make the sensations this can produce extremely exciting.

BBW tribute in the DK building 👀
I will quit calling for Verbolten's demise if we get this.

I've long said I want a MysteryMine style Eurofighter in/around DK but an Axis would also be intriguing.
The Gerstlauer I was originally rooting for for the DK building would be the Bobsled to fill the "low minimum height non-kiddie coaster" role.
 
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Somebody posted this in a crude way on reddit, but I think it's an obvious concern, which I'll put this way. What happens when a row only has one rider? Isn't it going to be off-kilter? So does that mean they won't allow single riders in a row and, furthermore, not two riders with a significant difference in weight? That seems problematic, unless they have some means to balance the cars regardless of riders?
Two years later I am seeing this message, and I honestly had to sit down and give it a lot of thought and a couple envelope numbers. What I am thinking is because the rotation of the seats depends on center of mass positionally existing below the center of rotation, the weight variance will not really impact the way the ride works all that much when also considering the weight of the seats themselves. All that needs to exist to induce rotation is a center of mass decently lower in the vertical direction than the point of rotation, so the momentum being carried when whipped through some of these track layouts causes the rotation. Since the actual seat portion is positioned below where the rotation occurs anyway, adding weight will actually make the rotation more substantial, even if it is off center vertically. There could be possible scenarios with just the right weight variance between the two sides of the car and a certain track element, but it would be relatively simple to ensure enough speed into the elements (or altering the elements) such that the desired rotation is achieved. Overall I think people would be surprised how much of the "free motion" is entirely predictable with a pretty simple simulation.

This is kinda backed up by some of the footage out there of the prototype track as there are some clips of just one rider in the car. The thing I am curious about is how they designed it in such a way so that the resting state of the seat is not impacted by the fact that there is one rider, but I imagine they just have an aligning mechanism before locking the seats.
 

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I was under the impression that the rotations are controlled by a motor in the chassis assembly connected via the seat hub connector based on footage of the demo cars being spun while the chassis remains locked into position - therefore all forces could be easily calculable as part of the design phase since the rotation is known in advance.
 
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