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Roar retrack is hype. They are talking about possibly using (likely) Titan track in the high speed turns. I'm not sure how I feel about that, but it's better than turning it into a full steel coaster. They were just considering that option. Regarldess of that, the retrack will be a full retrack. They will remove and replace every layer of wood, not just a few layers.

Somebody asked about a full RMC conversion (boo) and they said they looked into it and it would cost $10 million and they can't afford that.
 
I don't think RMC Roar would be the best use of $10M and doubt SF management would either. If it was the price of a frisbee we'd already see it. At any rate, the retrack is a commitment to keeping it wood.
 
Granted I've only gotten one ride on roar so take this with a grain of salt... But roar was downright one of the worst woodies I've ever been on. I don't think a retrack will help the pacing of the coaster enough... Sure it'll be smoother now but it is just so boring already. I would absolutely invest in a SF membership if they had a world class RMC there.

Tl;dr: it's pointless to retrack a coaster that's already got a shit layout.
 
You can tell Roar is an early GCI. It feels more refined than Wildcat but not up to snuff with Lightning Racer. I wouldn't mind GCI coming in and doing more extensive work to bring it up to par with more recent GCIs. That would probably mean the ride goes down for extended refurb but I'd be on board with it if SFA was willing to really pump money into Roar.

RMCs in general also have terrible operations. I don't think SFA could deal with another slow load coaster.
 
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Roar is right up there on my list favorite wooden coasters as well. I have been concerned with all the talk of RMCing it that we would end up with a simple generic RMC that would naturally be compared to TT and found wanting by many. In my opinion a simple retract is definitely the better call here.
 
Roar was running great. There isn't a ton of new track, but what was there was noticeable. Mind you, still a bumpy coaster. It's a wooden coaster with a lot of turns, so duh. I personally love it, but the RMC-or-bust crowd will still hate it. Screw them.
 
The roughest part was the hill going back out away from the station under the 1st big camelback, and as far as I can tell they did nothing to it. It's still more enjoyable up to that point, but seems they started retracking at the beginning and didn't make it as far as expected. It's fine after that though, except watch the brakes.

Also saw new wood on the return section of Wild One, still good.
 
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Does anyone know if they did anymore retracking during the off season?
 
Does anyone know if they did anymore retracking during the off season?
I believe I read that they did, but I don't want that to be taken as fact as I'm going on memory of what I read and that is ... let's say, pretty sketchy. lol. But I thought I read both on it and Wild One. I haven't been this year yet to see. I currently still don't have a pass.
 
When I rode it earlier this year, it didn’t seem like it had been retracked much of anywhere, if at all.
They definitely did partial retracking before last season. It was notably smoother in some of the high speed banked turns and last year you could see the new wood easily. I think they said they did more this past offseason, but it's possible I'm thinking of the season prior....
 
They definitely did partial retracking before last season. It was notably smoother in some of the high speed banked turns and last year you could see the new wood easily. I think they said they did more this past offseason, but it's possible I'm thinking of the season prior....
That was my memory of the plan but wasn't sure if they continued given everything that happened with SF
 
Yeah, it's rough. Like really rough. Of course we all want an RMC, but I doubt Six Flags will work with them for a while. Especially for something like SFA. I hope the new trains on Superman will be nice though.
 
Some of us have a different definition of rough, I am of the opinion that Roar has been running well the last couple of years. Given the maintenance budget given to SFA, the carpenters have been doing an amazing job.
If the park is to get an RMC someday, I hope it is ground up. I am of the opinion that Discovery Kingdom made a big mistake using their GCI support structure for an RMC, a support structure built for large swooping helices does not make for a good RMC in my opinion.
 
I like SFDK's Joker but I also don't want SFA's Roar converted. Get a lower maintenance track product (Titan, Precut, 208, etc) on the high-wear areas of the layout, get a pair of Millennium Flyers (maybe from the death of a certain West Coast woodie?), and Roar would be a fantastic, modern, twister woodie again. It complements the retro, airtime-focused, out-and-back layout of Wild One perfectly and, honestly, it's unlike anything on offer at BGW, KD, Dorney, or SFGAdv. Its only regional, modern, twister woodie competition is Lightning Racer at Hershey.

I'd much rather SFA get an RMC Raptor Stunt Pilot clone than convert one of their woodies.
 
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I like SFDK's Joker but I also don't want SFA's Roar converted. Get a lower maintenance track product (Titan, Precut, 208, etc) on the high-wear areas of the layout, get a pair of Millennium Flyers (maybe from the death of a certain West Coast woodie?), and Roar would be a fantastic, modern, twister woodie again. It complements the retro, airtime-focused, out-and-back layout of Wild One perfectly and, honestly, it's unlike anything on offer at BGW, KD, Dorney, or SFGAdv. Its only regional, modern, twister woodie competition is Lightning Racer at Hershey.

I'd much rather SFA get an RMC Raptor Stunt Pilot clone than convert one of their woodies.
The two oldest GCI's remaining. If I'm not mistaken, their first six coasters are/were Wildcat (now an RMC), Roar, Roar (in Califiornia) (now an RMC), Gwazi (now an RMC), Lightning Racer, and Ozark Wildcat (demolished). Thunderhead at Dollywood is the next oldest remaining.
 
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