Disney has come up with a turnstiles-less RFID system. Check out the thread here.
Could this sort of system benefit BGW?
Could this sort of system benefit BGW?
RFID "Turnstiles" at Epcot
- Thread starter Peter R.
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No. I highly doubt you will see BGW use this for a very long time. Disney is tying the RFID system into EVERYTHING. Dining Plan tickets, Fast Pass, Park Admission, Merch Sales, and quite a bit more into the sytem itself. It is a MASSIVE budget drain (given the gov't is not giving Disney a portion as they have in the past. Gov't has a past of testing new security systems at Disney). From what I gather the EPCOT stiles are temporary as of right now and are very prone to changes. I still do not understand why they used a Mickey Head as the Symbol and not the EPCOT logo. WDWMagic has a very good thread going on this subject with a tad bit of insider words.
how would they prevent someone from repurchasing a partially used multi day ticket? It seems the finger scans are only for AP guests.
From The Thread:
"On the other side of the entrance, there did seem to be some sort of a counter system, and people with lots of custom-made tablets and iPhone-looking systems that appeared to be counting and registering everyone that come in."
I believe this could also prevent the Scenario you presented as well. In addition I have been researching and I believe they fingerprint scan all people attempting to enter the park someone correct me if i'm wrong)
Too bad about BGW not implementing this sort of Tech. It could do a good job of clearing people through that front gate area quicker
"On the other side of the entrance, there did seem to be some sort of a counter system, and people with lots of custom-made tablets and iPhone-looking systems that appeared to be counting and registering everyone that come in."
I believe this could also prevent the Scenario you presented as well. In addition I have been researching and I believe they fingerprint scan all people attempting to enter the park someone correct me if i'm wrong)
Too bad about BGW not implementing this sort of Tech. It could do a good job of clearing people through that front gate area quicker
BG Europe Fan said:
This is only being used for resort guests and AP holders. AP holders must provide a thumbpring upon entry. The other ticket holders are linked into the resort guest database and track the trends to it. From my understanding, the party contracted to develop the system has some fairly intricate safety measures in place as well as a very direct method for scanning. The range of these chips is very low, under two inches low.
Atlantis said:
I don't think the RFID chip size matters. You would just need a higher power RFID reader, right?
Peter R. said:
From that discussion, it only says that they scan the fingers of the AP holders. At least at the moment. They could be wrong though.
For non resort guests they historically have not required prints. There has been heavy discussions of changing that policy but not due to the RFID deal they are starting. The ticket resales throughout Orlando are the leading cause of this. My mother had a ten day ticket with 8 days left on it. She purchased an AP for Feb, May, August, and our December trip. My little brother went this year for his first trip of the year in August. She gave him her hopper for him to use and there was no print. Resort guests can randomly be required to provide a print but AP ALWAYS requires one. RFID is mostly being put in place for resort guests. It will be a while before hard tickets are gone and it is solely RFID. Look into the bracelets that resort guests will be receiving very soon.
Allears.net claims Disney requires fingerprints of all ticket holders., which is where I had gotten my research from in my original post. Guess I won't rely on that site anymore... heh.
I know Universal definitely requires a finger print, just like BG/SW, but I don't recall any finger printing going on at Disney.
Peter R. said:
I don't want to discredit All Ears as it is an outstanding source of information. I head out in 25 days for my next Disney trip and will take closer note then of the scanning.
Pandora, Disney DOES print all AP and Season Pass holders for a fact. As I am sure you know their tickets have an optional to exp. option you can purchase. A print might be required for those. I will find out soon. Disney also has the most reliable printers of Uni or Busch; they are nearly always one print and done, not show ID
I did find some finger biometrics scanners, which is probably what Disney uses rather than the ones that Universal and BG uses. They scan finger print and a deep tissue print and have less failure to acquire. (i'm bored at work) check some out: http://www.lumidigm.com/venus-series/
Disney probably doesn't use these exact ones, but probably something similar. (honestly, I have no idea what disney uses, but if there's low failure rates, then it must be a high quality one, like the one linked)
Disney probably doesn't use these exact ones, but probably something similar. (honestly, I have no idea what disney uses, but if there's low failure rates, then it must be a high quality one, like the one linked)
RFID stiles were boxed up about a week and a half ago and are now gone. Major changes are being done to the entry version. On a different note, Test Track now has RFID consoles at the entry and exit of the attraction. It is testing fora more accurate wait time system.
Peter R. said:
No shocker there, though. It is the second time that they have been opened, closed, and removed. It is so new for theme park admission Disney is heading the pack and is ensuring they do it correctly. It will not be long at all before the next version is out for testing.
dude, RFID tags in your season pass or even normal ticket and they could use those, given the right conditions, to determine (semi-)accurate wait times.