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Heres what I think they should do for the scare-atories, make them central hubs. These cetral hubs will have actors that radiate out into other areas. the hubs could be Banbury Cross, France,San Marco, and Rhinefield, like before, but instead of having boundaries, have a set of actors set to that area, then others that radiate out into surrounding areas. Have english farmer characters be out in the scotland area, or have it be a carriage that crashed and attacked by monster sor something. In italy, whatever the theme is, (im hoping for clowns, or like it was said before actually scary pirates, ) and have the udnead pirates /clowns radiate outwards, to the oktoberfest/san marco bridge, in rhinefield do campires again, but towards aquitaine and new france you should have more beastly vampires/monsters and monster hunters. In France, they should have a scare-atory themed around ghosts of the french revolutions, complete with air blasting muskets, weapons and all sorts of stuff, and the best part is, they could use the Ripper Row costumes.

Another idea is, switch up the areas, put vampires in banbury cross! put ripper row in france, and have it be a doctor jekyll and mister hyde(i assume that was in france).This way, we could see a change of pace, and still be conservative with our dollars.same basic decor, same costumes, diffrent varoiation.

Also, please do mazes to fit the area. I would love to see MSR return, because, the thing is, MSR has always changed a bit each year, and in the globe, with ripper row, we could see a whole new musical number/show line up, or if they put vampires there, like I suggested, they could have the same opening.

Also, put some scares on he train! Have sets put up BETWEEN the stations, that way people can still access the park regularly, but still be scared. Sure it wont be as grand,but its better than nothing!

If they do this, the tagline could be called Howl-O-Scream:Back To The Roots , or take a variation Root of All Evil and use it as a tagline. That way it keeps with the scary garden theme.Also,put alot of easter eggs!Things like have a pumpkin patch, and one pumpkin has Jacks Hat ontop.Have a wolf stalking people in line for the germany maze.Put a witches broom near the line for italy(or if they dont do clowns again, have a skeleton in the maze but with a clown wig and a clown nose on it).Have a sign in the park for something sleepy hallow/headless horseman themed.Maybe have a thing se up outside deadline to look like a museum piece, and a mummys sarcophagus is busted open(Curse of pompeii reference). Of course, this would be great for the parks 20th anniversary, but they should start their way to this.
 
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One thing I will post is I believe there needs to be more scare actors like we had in BGT. Unfortunately, with what the process at BGW I guess they hire people and a lot of new ones after the opening weekend don't return so they use the reserve hires such as my friend, like they did this year. I can also tell you with Entertainment for HOS a lot is favoritism, and I've seen it happen, it's sad but true. This past year with TERROR-TORIES they went for not just scare factor but interaction.

Next year some changes need made and will be, it's also the fact lots of people don't wanna return after how they are treated, being punched at, harassed for doing a job that you are to scare people, and than the usual drunk or sorry to say Douches who think they are big and wanna impress their girl, guy, friends, or just have no respect for anyone, that you can see by the number of incidents the scare actors had to fill out incident reports on.

Well with that don't expect to much for 2014. However, with 2015 being BGWs 40th year of operation, and also gonna be HOS SWEET 16. I m hoping better change and maybe bringing back the 16 year veterans like Lady of the Gardens, and etc.. I can see some renewed mazes and scares. I also would love for us at BGW to do the same type of ventures as I did at HOS at BGT, like voting for certain scare areas, name for the event and so on. I believe Catacombs, Bitten, and 13 should be redone if not overhauled all together, but knowing how budget goes, we all know how it will pan out. So many ideas that would work so well get pushed to the side to spend money by you know who SHIMMER GLITTER, for unneeded confetti to be blasted and so called reworked shows. However, change is coming slowly but surely. I must say I enjoy seeing your ideas and concepts, so keep them up, you never know WHO may be lolli gagging thru the threads and say hey that's a good idea and pitch it, and maybe put it into action.

Enough of my rambling for you all. So here's my question since 2015 is HOS Sweet 16, anyone wanna start a thread or pitch some ideas about what it should be? My major one is bring back the train ride with what it was, yes there could be away with fixing line messes and that would be by offering a ticket for the attraction to lessen que problems(Nic and I talked about this). So hurry up HOS 2014 and keep your ideas a rolling. HOUSE OF VAYNE SUKA
 

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Why not do a twsited carnivale?Clowns meets masquerade!And, for the maze, do an edgar allan poe theme, mainly masque of the red death and casque of amotillado, and others.In england, lets do a steampunk apocolyptic clockwork maze/terrortory,france do a french revolution theme, with a working guillotine where eitheer the dragon or the demon DJ was, and in germany do a sleepy hollow maze, since the show Sleepy Hollow is sooo popular.
 
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Bigfoot said:
Why not do a twsited carnivale?Clowns meets masquerade!And, for the maze, do an edgar allan poe theme, mainly masque of the red death and casque of amotillado, and others.In england, lets do a steampunk apocolyptic clockwork maze/terrortory,france do a french revolution theme, with a working guillotine where eitheer the dragon or the demon DJ was, and in germany do a sleepy hollow maze, since the show Sleepy Hollow is sooo popular.
Great ideas but factor in the budget. That's the big deal for BGW, it's sad but true. I d like to see witches brought back to an area because of AHS COVEN series, but also lots of witch type folklore for each country.

I think the hamlets should be little bit based off of that countries folklore and legends, just like vampire and werewolves. England area and BANBURY CROSS of course Rippers Row, lots of people know that story and it worked well this year people enjoyed it, besides the bottle necking, and the kidnappings it had at first.

So if I had my way it would be kinda like this:

England area: Ripper Row
Pompeii area: zombie type scare actors who were caught in the Pompeii disaster
Italy area: carnival type but only in maybe Fiesta
San Marco could still have pirates or something different
Germany area: witches vamps or feed into Blackforest folklore maybe have those pesky gnomes run around
rhinefeld do the vampires to feed in with BB, but make them more interactive or maybe have zombies skiers who have been attacked by the avalanches of Alpie and it's monster.
New France area: I'm stuck on this except maybe worn out loggers and lost village of the tormented
France area: demon street was great but change it up a little have a story line except Rave from Hell
Wolf valley area: werewolves the wolves bit a trainer and unleashed a newer werewolf terror
Ireland area: Killarney kommotion ( I kid I kid) hmmm mutant leprechaun
Scotland area: scarecrow Jeepers Creepers
Also if or with the pirates area maybe theme the Rhinefeld River Cruise with them, you take a boat ride and get boarded out on the cruise by a band of pirates, this would be cool too if there was another boat docking system near Fiesta Italia

Just a lil brain sneezes for the moment. I have some really well planned out ones but it's late, and time to make the CT LOOK PURRTY comes early tomorrow morning.
 
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San Marco could do mythos, like minotaurs,giants,or whatever...maybe roman soldier ghosts? Or, with the whole davincis garden, do a steampunk theme.
 
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Jacques the Pirate said:
Why not do a twsited carnivale?Clowns meets masquerade!And, for the maze, do an edgar allan poe theme, mainly masque of the red death and casque of amotillado, and others.In england, lets do a steampunk apocolyptic clockwork maze/terrortory,france do a french revolution theme, with a working guillotine where eitheer the dragon or the demon DJ was, and in germany do a sleepy hollow maze, since the show Sleepy Hollow is sooo popular.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I'm going to answer you as if you're not.

Most of your suggestions have been done before. And while I'm all for going back to some of the things in HoS past. With the way things have been headed, I highly doubt we'll get anywhere close to what the original was.

There was Festa Dementia, which was Side Show freaks and circus clowns. And later on, after clown removal I believe, Masquerage was in Festa.

While a Poe house hasn't been done at BGW, it has been done at BGT. And the two parks have never really like to share their houses. (Something generic like clowns isn't sharing. Poe is rather specific.)

There's not enough room in England for a house since FoF was built.

French Revolution could work in France.

Germany has had Sleepless Hollow Manor. Which was a Sleepy Hollow based house, I believe it ran the same years as the train ride. But, I could be mistaken on that.
 
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CastleOSullivan said:
I wish Tampa would send some houses down here...
My thoughts too, since I worked at BGT. A lot of it would work up here at BGW ALSO.

House of Vayne could work in Italy based on Italy being high fashion, as well as others, but knowing that BGT props for HOS are sometime refurbished, recycled or scrapped, the worst part is it's too hard for just to do a transfer up to revamp, just because somewhere in between parks, that's not a good idea that I was told. However, I see other parks do it and it works, but who knows, too much of a hassle to ship and transfer items to help save on budget, but it's okay to spend thousands for newer props and use once or twice sometimes only to put in storage.

So would be nice if they would see this worked out and brought some BGT HOS houses up here.
 
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Well, a good friend of mine went by the maze area for CTC, and could see that a tech crew was going in and out of there, no props being removed from the visible opening other than the giant skeleton pirate. The Crew Wanted Sign and themed rooftops are still up though.basically all the durable stuff is out there, while the stuff that cant handle the weather has been removed(crows,skeletons,etc).Not sure if they havent gotten arround to reaslly taking stuff down, or CTC is returning.
 
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I love the "Scare a Tories"(Zachary's Terror-Torie's)PS. That's pretty clever......So the only thing i have a problem with the "Scare a Tories" That nothing is in Festa Italia .....When i think of Festa during HOS is CLOWNS, but pirates in Festa/San Marco is stupid. Now Fear Fair was a failure in 2012 with under staffed members. Bringing Fear Fair or Clown Fusion.....and maybe Masquerade could be brought back if... The park makes it look stunning, add lots of Scare Actors, and have a great back story...Like how the story of The Never After/Grimm Hollows Dead Time Stories....I think two houses in the line up in Festa would really improve that area. (Add the second house in Roman Rapids building like done before in Masquerade) With the exception of "Scare a Tories" all of the park is not filled with Scare Actors but only in the "Scare a Tories" there are Scare Actors and that's a big problem (To me at least)...
 
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The park most likely won't be bringing back two mazes at the same time in that area. The reason they got rid of MasqueRage, was because it cluttered up the area too much. In fact, they had much more planned for that maze, and you can find out a little more about that in it's own thread.
 
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They should do either like they did for deadtime stories and the others, or make one giant maze. Masquerade 2.0. One part can be the indoors part, which is in the queue for RR, and then it leads to the outdoor part, behind RR. Or do the same for the clowns.One can be a mansion/circus tent, while the other is the local village .
 
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Can we do something more original than just clowns and a masquerade? These ideas are used and stale as stale can get. I want to see some creativity.
 
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What if they moved catacombs somewhere else (or get rid of it :() and put in a devil worshiper Haunt to go along with the theme with demon street. If they pulled it off right, it could be a terrifying house! :evilgrin:
 
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Party Rocker said:
Can we do something more original than just clowns and a masquerade? These ideas are used and stale as stale can get. I want to see some creativity.

Maybe we can finally get that DarKastle maze they were planning way back in 2005. :p Of course, I highly doubt they'll do it at this point.
 
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Party Rocker said:
Can we do something more original than just clowns and a masquerade? These ideas are used and stale as stale can get. I want to see some creativity.

Marco's Revenge - Marco Polo has returned from his famous trip from China, He comes back to home village. The whole village throws a fair in return of his gifts to everyone. When going to bed after the celebration, Marco awoke with a nightmare walked outside and took a walk in the woods, when he gotten back everyone was awake with the same nightmare. The villagers were confused and disturbed then everyone heard a loud noise, fire lit up the whole village. Strange beings started to chase everyone killing everyone and everythere thing in path. Marco was the first to be killed, only one family survived everything. The village finally re-populated every night in Festa is not a safe place. Marco still haunts the streets of the village even killing people. He has killed over millions in there sleep in one night the 13th night of the month, when the moon is full and red with a demolish glare over Festa Italia.

Now you're welcome for taking 20 minutes of my time

The house would be in Festa Italia ...Wait for it... The whole area will be a Terror-Torie with the name of it being Marco's Revenge and the house there will be named Devil Fair with Demons roaming ,villagers running, Marco killing everyone, People screaming for help... And yes make it GORY.......!!

Now for the Terror-Torie have the Scare Actors running around screaming, bleeding ,acting crazy, ETC. With Marco Polo chasing persons with a knife kinda like Ripper Row... Marco is Jack The Ripper basically.

And yes this is based off of what Festa Italia is about the return of Marco Polo's return from china... (With out the horror part)....

And there is your creativity :D:D:D:D:D:D
 
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