Agreed. I think people are being way too negative about this draft proposal. Even if this is EXACTLY what we get, it's a really good fit for KD if you ask me. It's a unique ride type for the region, it's less intense than i305 and Timbers, and it will have great capacity and reliability—things KD definitely needs.First wing coaster on the East Coast (that isn't just a free spin), I like it. Already more excited for this than Drachen Spire, but Pantheon will be hard to beat.
This layout proposal would be shorter in height than X-Flight. It's impossible to accurately calculate length without more detailed plans than what I'm working with right now.I'm more worried about the unused space than it possibly being an abbreviated clone. Will it be that much shorter than X-Flight?
May I ask what you expect? The leaked documents are literally working plans from inside the park. That’s what businesses do... they plan things before announcing them.The main issue is KD really needs to communicate some of their strategy to the public as secrecy is not serving them well in this case.
Actually have a conversation with their customer base about the vision for the park. You don't need specific plans to have a vision. Even something as simple as stating that as part of tearing down Volcano they are looking at a replacement ride as soon as feasible, maybe even provide some guidance where they are in the process. Basically do the opposite of what they did by tearing down Volcano, saying almost nothing, and pretending it wasn't an issue for the park.May I ask what you expect? The leaked documents are literally working plans from inside the park. That’s what businesses do... they plan things before announcing them.
True, but the park changes plans quickly all the time. Great example. The 2008 park addition was never supposed to be Dominator. In the early summer of 2007, the park was developing the plans to remove Hypersonic, with a closure date of Labor Day 2007. The original plans were the clear the site for a Huss Giant Frisbee ride (i.e. Maxx Air at Cedar Point, similar to our Delirium). I worked throughout the various rides in the Grove/OVA section of the park as a LIC/Lead. When the midsummer decision to close the amusement side of Geauga Lake by CF in July of 2007, the decision to close XLC on Labor Day was reversed. Dominator was coming, and we never saw a Giant Frisbee ride on the Grove until 2017. The idea of the park closing Volcano and then immediately adding a new coaster within two years is not surprising to me.Totally agree, especially considering a coaster to replace Volcano almost definitely wasn'tin the park's 5 year plan and thus wasn't budget for.
I do not disagree with KD being more open about making a press release about the closure and removal of Volcano and the Mountain. Through my own sources, the rumor for the rides closure is related to replacement parts and track/mountain exterior replacement that was needed. I heard* a price tag was in the millions to do it. Based on Volcanoe's downtime issues and low capacity, I can understand why the park decided on the direction it took.I see where @rswashdc is coming from. Moreso than with almost any other park I can think of, Kings Dominion tends to project an almost eerie silence. Interviews with the media seem almost non-existent, public statements are a once-in-a-blue-moon occurrence, and there's very little face-to-face interaction between pass holders and park management. The void of humanizing communication makes it really easy for the community to be skeptical and doubtful about the future of the park.
I firmly believe that Kings Dominion would have been much better served by pulling back the curtain some and telling people a little about what was going on with Volcano—tell people why the ride had to close—tell people why the mountain had to come down—tell people that the park is working to try to bring a new, unique experience to the park in the future.
A lot of chain parks feel like cold, lifeless corporations, but I'd contend that even amongst similar parks, Kings Dominion is particularly bad about it—and I think it really does harm the public's perception of the park's management and direction.
Could not agree with your final statement any more than I do. The fact that this ride will be on the location of where Volcano was located will always make it feel like "Volcano's replacement" and it will need to live up to that hype (fair or not).I don't see where anyone can argue with this. Even an outsider looking in can see that I305 didn't exactly hit the mark. Look at installations leading up to it and compare that to the 8 years of silence that followed it. It could be a fluke, I know there was a recession going on. Heck; Cedar Point took a 6 year break after Maverick. That being said, the apparent trajectory of KD changed when I305 was installed. The fact that this park even has a ride of that caliber blows my mind. I'm glad it's there, but it really breaks the mold of a mid-tier park. Was it a mistake? I don't think we have enough information to answer that question accurately.
That ramble aside, TT was a much more reasonable sized addition, and it seems to be a more popular addition. If that is the case, then seeing another mid-size ride makes sense. I don't think that there would be as much butthurt about this potential B&M if it weren't for the fact that it was sitting on Volcano's grave.