What do people think the next RMC hybrid might be? I personally haven't heard any millings following Wildcat's Revenge.
Next RMC Hybrid
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I worry that RMC has really spooked a lot of companies that bought RMCs previously by delivering unreliable, difficult/expensive to maintain attractions. Thoosies love them, but a lot of parks don't seem to feel the same.
Most of the remaining RMC hybrid conversion candidates are owned by the newly combined chain. Naturally, I hope that the new Six Flags will give them more work, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if RMC stays on their list of manufacturers to avoid.
Most of the remaining RMC hybrid conversion candidates are owned by the newly combined chain. Naturally, I hope that the new Six Flags will give them more work, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if RMC stays on their list of manufacturers to avoid.
I could be wrong (as I don't have the stats), but it appears that the fresh builds are more reliable than the conversions, or does it just look that way since there are less of them? (Other than the ones that were probably an ill-advised concept from the beginning...)
A ground-up RMC like Zadra is the most cost effective way to make a ride ~200ft. It cost about $15 million USD. Arie Force One was $13 million. I am surprised more of those haven’t popped up.
Steel Vengeance is a menace to maintain but Cedar Point shares the blame for pressuring RMC to go past their limits. I figured Twisted Timbers was somewhat reliable and easy to maintain, at least compared to SV.
Steel Vengeance is a menace to maintain but Cedar Point shares the blame for pressuring RMC to go past their limits. I figured Twisted Timbers was somewhat reliable and easy to maintain, at least compared to SV.
I've heard that twisted timbers' trains have had some issues, as they are the same, then-untested variant of RMC trains that Steve has, though I don't know any details.
I see RMC becoming less popular with parks for a while unless they can improve their build quality and tech. To be fair, they seem on track to accomplish this. Just need more projects out in the wild to demonstrate these improvements, like perhaps the LI raptor.
Kinda wondering if we could see more Ground Up RMCs appearing at smaller parks like any other Fun Spot park or even at potentially Holiday World
If conversions are done for, I'm happy about that. Do restorations like was done for Grizzly (minus the bright lights and first year with untouched last third). Keep wooden coasters wooden, please.
I don’t think conversions are done for. We could probably see a few more done at the new Six Flags chain.
I feel like it depends on the park and the coaster. Not every park can justify/afford repeated wooden refurbishments, and gravity group's new track is only super-durable on straight segments, not turns/twister layouts. Nor does every wooden coaster still fill a meaningful slot in their park's lineup (Carowinds Hurler, fight me).
I don't think RMC conversions or even Titan Track should be the default for all troubled woodies, but neither are all woodies (or all rides, imo) worthy of preservation.
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Dead thread revival
Anyways….been doing a lot of thinking lately about this
And I have a list of like a few parks that I think an RMC Hybrid would be perfect for
- Canada’s Wonderland
- Busch Gardens Williamsburg
- Kings Island
- Worlds of Fun (Timberwolf)
- Holiday World (The Legend/Ground Up)
- Six Flags St. Louis (The Boss)
- Valleyfair (Renegade)
Dead thread revival
Anyways….been doing a lot of thinking lately about this
And I have a list of like a few parks that I think an RMC Hybrid would be perfect for
- Canada’s Wonderland
- Busch Gardens Williamsburg
- Kings Island
- Worlds of Fun (Timberwolf)
- Holiday World (The Legend/Ground Up)
- Six Flags St. Louis (The Boss)
- Valleyfair (Renegade)
If anyone lets RMC within 100 miles of Renegade, I'm throwing hands.
No reason to destroy a great coaster for an okay one.
Agree with this
Do not agree with this. I'm sure RMC would make another banger if they got their hands on Renegade. It's just unnecessary.
- Canada's Wonderland - Was surveyed for, who knows. I doubt it would ever go through though for many reasons..
- BGW - Probably considered at one point.
- Kings Island - Never
- Worlds of Fun - Timberwolf seems to be here for the long run.
- Holiday World - Why would they???
- Six Flags St. Louis - Boss RMC almost happened, it would have sucked. I like to think it is permanently off the table.
- Valleyfair - Why would they touch Renegade??? No!!
The issue with conversions is that most good wooden coaster candidates have already been done, and the Walibi Belgium coaster is likely the last we'll see. More parks are taking interest in keeping and fixing up their woodies, especially with Gravity Group and GCI moving more heavily into renovation work with long-term fixes. RMC's ground-up coasters also seem to be leaning more steel, Zadra was a one-off and the Topper Track is discontinued.
Really? Everyone else I've heard talk about it has been fairly positive about an RMC hybrid coming in, especially over the Mack extreme spinner.
I find it hard to believe that it will be the last one ever, even if it takes another handful of years.
It's hard to tell right now how much investment the Enchanted Parks will get, but if we do start seeing them put major coasters in their parks I definitely think RMC Boss is on the table again, especially given some of the comments made by the CEO of Enchanted Parks.
I also want to point to Hurler at Carowinds. I won't say I think it's likely but the lack of money being put into that ride is interesting to me to say the least, especially when you consider the money Six Flags has put into other wooden coasters in the chain. Gravity Group has done their thing at KI, KD, and CW, they've had GCI and RMC do track work at parks bottom tier parks that they don't even own anymore (Michigan's Adventure and SFA), but the most they'll give Hurler, a coaster at a top-tier park, is some small sections of in house track work. Again I'm not gonna say it's likely, but I do think the lack of investment is interesting.
Past those two though I do agree that we're probably near the end of seeing RMC conversions in the US.
I also want to point to Hurler at Carowinds. I won't say I think it's likely but the lack of money being put into that ride is interesting to me to say the least, especially when you consider the money Six Flags has put into other wooden coasters in the chain. Gravity Group has done their thing at KI, KD, and CW, they've had GCI and RMC do track work at parks bottom tier parks that they don't even own anymore (Michigan's Adventure and SFA), but the most they'll give Hurler, a coaster at a top-tier park, is some small sections of in house track work. Again I'm not gonna say it's likely, but I do think the lack of investment is interesting.
Past those two though I do agree that we're probably near the end of seeing RMC conversions in the US.
Depends which crowd you hang out in. Just because it was included in a survey does not mean the concept was ever taken seriously.
Personally, I hope the park does not make the mistake of repurposing Wilde Beast's supports. Wild Beast is an amazing ride when it is properly maintained, and I think RMC could do so much better with a ground up design. Most likely Wilde Beast's future will be determined by the success of the retracking of the Mighty Canadian Minebuster.
RMC or replacement is the only fix for Hurler. Even if it was butter smooth and not about as rough as El Toro at its worst, there’s no saving that mind numbing layout.
That said, it unfortunately still sees pretty high ridership, and they need to prioritize the Nighthawk plot (wouldn’t mind if Vortex went too in favor of one large coaster), so even if anything does happen, I’d wager we’re quite a while off.
Yea Hurler still had 500k rides last year. I assume most of that is due to carowinds getting a ungodly amount of school trips