Lockers

[paintervision]

Beginning September 8th, Knotts is requiring all guests to use lockers for bags on GhostRider, HangTime, and Silver Bullet. These three coasters will no longer have a bag drop or storage for loose articles on the platform. Lockers are being built outside the stations for all three rides now, and will cost $3 for up to 2 hours, and $2 for additional hours after that. They are also offering a $15 for an all-day pass that is good for multiple uses.

Some construction progress for these lockers:

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[warfelg]

If a park has a no bag policy in the line, they need to offer a free locker while in line option.

Insert “Change My Mind” meme.

 

[ControlsEE]

If a park has a no bag policy in the line, they need to offer a free locker while in line option.

Insert “Change My Mind” meme.

As much as I agree with this sentiment, and it is quite logical, Busch has had a no-bag-in-line policy for years and always charged for lockers. They charged for them because people would pay for them, and you charge what people will pay, not what they want to pay (which in this case is $0). Please do not interperate this as an opportunity to debate the problems or merits with capitalism as I do not care to have that kind of debate on an internet THEME PARK forum.

 

[AmyUD06]

As much as I agree with this sentiment, and it is quite logical, Busch has had a no-bag-in-line policy for years and always charged for lockers. They charged for them because people would pay for them, and you charge what people will pay, not what they want to pay (which in this case is $0). Please do not interperate this as an opportunity to debate the problems or merits with capitalism as I do not care to have that kind of debate on an internet THEME PARK forum.

What's your point? Some parks do shitty things so we should just accept it when other parks implement those same shitty things?

 

[paintervision]

As much as I agree with this sentiment, and it is quite logical, Busch has had a no-bag-in-line policy for years and always charged for lockers. They charged for them because people would pay for them, and you charge what people will pay, not what they want to pay (which in this case is $0). Please do not interperate this as an opportunity to debate the problems or merits with capitalism as I do not care to have that kind of debate on an internet THEME PARK forum.

A couple years back we went to SeaWorld San Antonio. Steel Eel was open and we walked up first thing, and there was a Greeter who asked us to use the lockers. Fine, but the locker kiosk wasn't turned on for the day. Okay, so we waited 15-20 mins for the locker person to come out and get it going. Only to... go up to Steel Eel and ride with one train, and see the loose article bins other guests were using for bags.

I get park policies in place for safety or operational efficiency, and there's always risk of some other guest walking off with your loose articles (on purpose or by accident). But the policy is meaningless if they're not always enforced or followed.

If a park has a no bag policy in the line, they need to offer a free locker while in line option.

To bring this back to Knotts, I don't know why they would not go with double-sided/free lockers, and say "all loose articles need to go in" for these rides (and Xcelerator, too). Seems like that would speed up operations quite a bit and provide something positive for the guest experience. Plus getting people to put cell phones in a locker, which they are vigilant about.

 

[ControlsEE]

What's your point? Some parks do shitty things so we should just accept it when other parks implement those same shitty things?

Whoa, not sure where all this heat is coming from. My point is that it is common for parks that have lockers and dont allow loose articles in line, charge for the locker use. If you dont like the policy, leave comments at guest relations and do things to avoid locker use in the first place, such as a bag buddy or, if possible, reduce items to fit in concealed pouches that are not usually detected by staff.

 

[bill s]

If a park has a no bag policy in the line, they need to offer a free locker while in line option.

Insert “Change My Mind” meme.

Most free lockers are not for bags, they're for rides with a strict no items at all policy. Only exception I know of is Universal. I don't see why greeters say no fanny packs when most should fit in a little free locker. Although once for some reason one wouldn't open at TwTimbers when I put a coat in it.

Considering the extreme overcrowding at Knott's, this change makes sense. $Lockers<<$Fast lane. As long as they are friendly to people that didn't bring their glasses or just put them in the locker, most aren't (actually I've only used the ones at GrAdv: big screen small text, lockers in the shadows with numbers rubbed off the keys, terrible).

 

[warfelg]

I think that the point I’m making that’s getting lost here is they are effectively making these rides an up charge ride unless you do something to skirt the rules of no loose items. If you are going to make nearly the entire line be no loose items then you need to give a cost free option.

For the record if I take a backpack into the park, yes I expect to pay. But if I have just my phone, wallet, keys; I feel like I’m being scammed to have to pay for lockers while I ride certain rides but not others.

 

[bill s]

For the record if I take a backpack into the park, yes I expect to pay. But if I have just my phone, wallet, keys; I feel like I’m being scammed to have to pay for lockers while I ride certain rides but not others.

Most rides say no loose items as a CTA policy but it is not enforced. No metal detector, no Spanish Inquisition (GrAdv security). If you normally leave your phone and keys in the station, yes that's a problem.

 

[paintervision]

Hearing this may have been rolled back to paid after two hours for small lockers. Can't find this on the web site yet.

 

[warfelg]

Hearing this may have been rolled back to paid after two hours for small lockers. Can't find this on the web site yet.

What’s this mean? Like 2 hours of free then you have to pay across the park? Or in one use?

 

[paintervision]

What’s this mean? Like 2 hours of free then you have to pay across the park? Or in one use?

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Sounds like they walked it back and want to forget they ever charged guests for these lockers in the first place...

 

[warfelg]

I’m still unsure if that’s each time you got a locker it’s 2 hours or 2 hours free total on the day.

 

[DE_Creative]

I’m still unsure if that’s each time you got a locker it’s 2 hours or 2 hours free total on the day.

I would assume it’s 2 hours per locker. Not sure how they’d track your usage throughout the day across different locker banks without having you pay for anything, and I’ve never seen a “you get this much locker time spread across all the locations” setup before

 

[warfelg]

I would assume it’s 2 hours per locker. Not sure how they’d track your usage throughout the day across different locker banks without having you pay for anything, and I’ve never seen a “you get this much locker time spread across all the locations” setup before

The same way that BGW has the all day locker setup that can travel.