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While the park could choose to do any of those options with their ice rink, i think a difficulty will be adding in elevated seating to watch either. Additionally, I think the logistics of hockey and (unless it's a semi-pro team match) the limited attendance draw for youth team play makes it a tough sell.

Doing some kind of Peanuts on Ice show may be more their speed, especially if there's opportunities for an up-sell for skating with the characters or an on-ice meet and greet sort of thing.

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I would look at youth events, vice semi-pro, with the intention of getting the participants and families in the park. I'd use Disney World as an analogy, though it's a poor one, but the idea is by hosting sports events on ice you can draw guests in general to the park.

On-ice shows or character meets would be nice, though seating would need to be figured out - maybe bleachers could be set up where the grandstand is.
 

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I would look at youth events, vice semi-pro, with the intention of getting the participants and families in the park. I'd use Disney World as an analogy, though it's a poor one, but the idea is by hosting sports events on ice you can draw guests in general to the park.

Disney can do it as part of their resort complexes (NBA bubble), but KD having one of their main wintertime activities tied up for most of a day (plus installing the nets and markings needed for regulation play) means the few guests interested in coming despite not being associated to youth sports will have less entertainment options available.

Not saying they can't or won't do it, especially if it's easy to install the gear needed and they were going to need raised bleachers anyways, just would take extra consideration. On the plus side if they did that, the F&B revenue should be considerably larger during those events.
 

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I think a lot of people missed @netdvn's point the other day. BGW has the luxury of being located in a relatively high-population area with plenty of surrounding neighborhoods, not to mention being located in a town that attracts some amount of tourists year-round. KD is located in the middle of an unincorporated area of Hanover County and is surrounded by farms and forests for miles. Very few people live within a short (read: 5-15 minute drive) of KD, unlike BGW.

I suspect that the main audience that BGW is hoping to capture with their January-February-March events is mostly locals who can quickly and easily scoot up the road to the park for a few hours, grab a meal, watch a performance, and ride a few rides. KD literally does not have that audience. If KD wanted to offer year-round events, they would have to put together a seriously impressive product to entice people to make the at least half-hour trip up and down I-95 to visit the park during those extremely cold, dreary winter months.

I think KD would need to put in much more effort and much more of an investment than BGW needs to get the same crowds. For that reason, it just doesn't seem worth it for KD, at least not any time soon.
 

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I think it is worth observing that while there are some tourists year-round in the area, Colonial Williamsburg has reduced operations in January and February.

I am not disagreeing with what has been said, but I think we need to keep BGW's winter events in the proper context.
 

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Historically, Williamsburg has been dead in January and February until at least Mid March (whenever spring break is) to the point of restaurant closures and scaled-back hospitality offerings. Now, who is to say that BGW being open won't change this somewhat... but for Colonial Williamsburg at least, it has always been the time for seasonal maintenance closures.
 

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Btw, while true that KD is sort of isolated from the population centers of the area comparatively to BGW, I'd think that depending on where someone lives in relation to the park in either locality has more to do with the decision to go or not. For instance, folks in VB may take 45 minutes-an hour to get to BGW but folks in Chesterfield could be at KD in a half hour (I've done both drives, though it's been awhile, ymmv).

Therefore it's not a cut/dry scenario of if you build it they will come for either park.
 

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Yes people will come to KD if it opens in the off season, but would it be enough to open in the dead of January-February when people aren't traveling?

BGW is at an advantage where the town and its attractions still run 365. Yes Colonial Williamsburg may scale back operations, but it still stays open. And even without Colonial Williamsburg, there's still Great Wolf, which draws both locals and out of towners year round no matter what. Having BGW open means a family doing Great Wolf for a weekend can easily hop over to BGW for a few hours, and then head back to the waterpark.

KD doesn't really have that advantage.
 
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The fact remains that very often : you get what you pay for.
KD is charging much less right now and the experience is about as good as Ive seen in years, with manageable crowds, quality food, and just a nice experience. Though the reservations are annoying, they keep the park manageable. BGW opening the floodgates without requisite staff to handle the crowds and has basically trashed the guest experience with their running the park understaffed. Right now it’s a crapshoot going to BGW any given day, whereas KD is a pretty consistent experience, which is what a park should be for guests.
 
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kd was fantastic both of my visits this season. also it seems like the employee morale is better at the park as well. some of the new bgw employees are just plain rude
 
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