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Interesting on this topic @basseyfish (and not saying the following is this case), but (and there's a name for this phenomena but I'm blanking on it, but its similar to the Mandala Effect) often times when doing something like this (looking from an observation point) because you know something is there your mind feels like it can see it.

So something interesting to think of here:
The earth curves 8 inches for every mile. So at about 5 feet, the human eye can see the surface of the earth for 3 miles. According to KD's website you can see out 18 miles from the observation deck (I can't get confirmation of the height of the deck, just overall height). Downtown Richmond is 21 miles away, putting it just outside the claimed radius of what KD says. But even with our nifty formula seen above, the earth curves 168 inches from KD to Downtown Richmond, meaning an object would have to be at least 14 feet tall just to make it to the horizon surface (this doesn't account for the angle you are looking at and any objects that may be blocking).

Now if you go WNW looking in the direction of Charlottesville, I would be more confident in saying your mind might have looked at the tops of trees as mountains because you know they are over there. They are about 70 miles away at that point, drawing a straight line over Charlottesville. So 70 miles, loose 8 inches every mile, that's 560 inches. Just to crest the surface would take an elevation of 47 feet. Now, I know that doesn't seem like a lot, but think of it this way, you theoretically need then 1.667 feet for every mile just to see the surface. That's a height of 117 feet.

Now none of this includes accounting for atmospheric visibility of any given day, and even at the visibility in Doswell might not be the same at the Shenedoah Mountains, Richmond, or many other potentially visible areas.
 

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Interesting on this topic @basseyfish (and not saying the following is this case), but (and there's a name for this phenomena but I'm blanking on it, but its similar to the Mandala Effect) often times when doing something like this (looking from an observation point) because you know something is there your mind feels like it can see it.

So something interesting to think of here:
The earth curves 8 inches for every mile. So at about 5 feet, the human eye can see the surface of the earth for 3 miles. According to KD's website you can see out 18 miles from the observation deck (I can't get confirmation of the height of the deck, just overall height). Downtown Richmond is 21 miles away, putting it just outside the claimed radius of what KD says. But even with our nifty formula seen above, the earth curves 168 inches from KD to Downtown Richmond, meaning an object would have to be at least 14 feet tall just to make it to the horizon surface (this doesn't account for the angle you are looking at and any objects that may be blocking).

Now if you go WNW looking in the direction of Charlottesville, I would be more confident in saying your mind might have looked at the tops of trees as mountains because you know they are over there. They are about 70 miles away at that point, drawing a straight line over Charlottesville. So 70 miles, loose 8 inches every mile, that's 560 inches. Just to crest the surface would take an elevation of 47 feet. Now, I know that doesn't seem like a lot, but think of it this way, you theoretically need then 1.667 feet for every mile just to see the surface. That's a height of 117 feet.

Now none of this includes accounting for atmospheric visibility of any given day, and even at the visibility in Doswell might not be the same at the Shenedoah Mountains, Richmond, or many other potentially visible areas.
I can confirm that you can sorta see Richmond from up there on a clear day. It's not more of a hazy out line of the taller buildings but it is there and can be seen especially through those quarter telescopic viewing devices.
 
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Interesting on this topic @basseyfish (and not saying the following is this case), but (and there's a name for this phenomena but I'm blanking on it, but its similar to the Mandala Effect) often times when doing something like this (looking from an observation point) because you know something is there your mind feels like it can see it.

So something interesting to think of here:
The earth curves 8 inches for every mile. So at about 5 feet, the human eye can see the surface of the earth for 3 miles. According to KD's website you can see out 18 miles from the observation deck (I can't get confirmation of the height of the deck, just overall height). Downtown Richmond is 21 miles away, putting it just outside the claimed radius of what KD says. But even with our nifty formula seen above, the earth curves 168 inches from KD to Downtown Richmond, meaning an object would have to be at least 14 feet tall just to make it to the horizon surface (this doesn't account for the angle you are looking at and any objects that may be blocking).

Now if you go WNW looking in the direction of Charlottesville, I would be more confident in saying your mind might have looked at the tops of trees as mountains because you know they are over there. They are about 70 miles away at that point, drawing a straight line over Charlottesville. So 70 miles, loose 8 inches every mile, that's 560 inches. Just to crest the surface would take an elevation of 47 feet. Now, I know that doesn't seem like a lot, but think of it this way, you theoretically need then 1.667 feet for every mile just to see the surface. That's a height of 117 feet.

Now none of this includes accounting for atmospheric visibility of any given day, and even at the visibility in Doswell might not be the same at the Shenedoah Mountains, Richmond, or many other potentially visible areas.
Talk about a detailed reply haha I know what you're talking about. I was watching this last week and this made me think of it

But It could of been the top of trees. But man it sure did look like tall rolling hills haha
 
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Interesting on this topic @basseyfish (and not saying the following is this case), but (and there's a name for this phenomena but I'm blanking on it, but its similar to the Mandala Effect) often times when doing something like this (looking from an observation point) because you know something is there your mind feels like it can see it.

So something interesting to think of here:
The earth curves 8 inches for every mile. So at about 5 feet, the human eye can see the surface of the earth for 3 miles. According to KD's website you can see out 18 miles from the observation deck (I can't get confirmation of the height of the deck, just overall height). Downtown Richmond is 21 miles away, putting it just outside the claimed radius of what KD says. But even with our nifty formula seen above, the earth curves 168 inches from KD to Downtown Richmond, meaning an object would have to be at least 14 feet tall just to make it to the horizon surface (this doesn't account for the angle you are looking at and any objects that may be blocking).

Now if you go WNW looking in the direction of Charlottesville, I would be more confident in saying your mind might have looked at the tops of trees as mountains because you know they are over there. They are about 70 miles away at that point, drawing a straight line over Charlottesville. So 70 miles, loose 8 inches every mile, that's 560 inches. Just to crest the surface would take an elevation of 47 feet. Now, I know that doesn't seem like a lot, but think of it this way, you theoretically need then 1.667 feet for every mile just to see the surface. That's a height of 117 feet.

Now none of this includes accounting for atmospheric visibility of any given day, and even at the visibility in Doswell might not be the same at the Shenedoah Mountains, Richmond, or many other potentially visible areas.
I just realized that the video is ment with water. Anyway still neat. It could of been the mandala effect but I wasnt even thinking about the mountains since i was kinda still a kid when i noticed it, and did not really care at all about the mountains till i noticed it could of been
 
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Does anyone remember why Eiffel Tower is still listed as closed on the site? I think it has been down all season but can't recall why.
 

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Has anyone heard anything about why the Eiffel Tower has been closed all season? The park has felt fairly well staffed lately, so I’d be surprised if staffing was the issue, especially since the tower probably only needs a few people to operate it anyway. Last year (when staffing was significantly worse) they operated the tower intermittently on weekends, but I haven’t seen it open even on my weekend visits this year.

Whenever I visit with friends, the Eiffel Tower is always the one ride everyone asks to go on. It’s really bizarre to me that the park’s most iconic, central, and accessible attraction has been (to my knowledge) SBNO all season.
 
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Unfortunately I see this type of issue becoming more prevalent with our current supply chain issues. We have had to push back our new cath lab opening twice not due to electrical panel delays.
 

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Yes, it's closed due to a maintenance issue and inaccessibility to the parts needed to fix it properly.

Curious if it's an Intamin parts issue or if the parts could be coming from a more standard elevator company?
 
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Curious if it's an Intamin parts issue or if the parts could be coming from a more standard elevator company?
My understanding, if the issue is related to the elevators, is that they were not manufactured by Intamin. It was another company (Swiss/German - Hausshaun - SP?) that built the elevators. I believe the elevators were refurbished in the mid-1990's. New solid elevator doors and HVAC were the most visible changes. Not sure of the extent of behind the scenes refurbishment during that time. The original elevator doors had narrow windows in them. Folks next to the doors could glimpse outside as well.
 

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Haushahn

It's the largest German elevator manufacturer, founded in 1889 in my home town Stuttgart.

The workshop actually existed since 1812 already and used to make industrial scales before going into the elevator business.

They also made the elevators for the Eiffel Tower at Kings Park.

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